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I started this thread to talk about an indepent Palestine, not some rightwing fundementalist nazi's definition of consummation.
Fecias is the one self-moderating, by de-railing threads, just like he was banned for.

Then you should have no problem getting me banned. Go for it.
 
Homosexuality is sin in the scriptures, Old and New Testament. Jesus never permitted anything that was written in the scriptures as sin. Jesus also gave the conditions for marriage in Matthew 19... man and woman.

I told you why the OT was against homosexuality in another thread.

The OT was written so cretins like you would know not to fuck your sisters and daughters. Homosexuality was banned to preserve sperm so the people could "be fruitful and multiply".
 
It's not a tough question; it's a BS question. Jesus didn't talk about homosexuality - clearly, it wasn't a huge issue with him. Listening to some who call themselves Christians (and again - let's not forget the 1st part of that word), you would think that you'd open up the NT & find him ranting against homosexuality for pages & pages.

Try to come up w/ a real question now.

so if jesus didn't talk about something, then that means he implicitly approves? just exactly what are you saying? jesus didn't rant about murder either. your logic is dumbfounding and your defensive posture is telling.
 
so if jesus didn't talk about something, then that means he implicitly approves? just exactly what are you saying? jesus didn't rant about murder either. your logic is dumbfounding and your defensive posture is telling.

You're really a buffoon. This won't do any good for the schoolchild, but Alias said "You say you're a Christian, yet you will not accept the scriptures in your New Testament that condemn homosexuality." To which I responded with a question...did Jesus Christ condemn homosexuality?

Somehow, this has become a conversation about Jesus approving of homosexuality. He didn't say anything on the topic. What about that don't you get?

Your brain is a strange, strange place man. You're really a fucking idiot.
 
You're really a buffoon. This won't do any good for the schoolchild, but Alias said "You say you're a Christian, yet you will not accept the scriptures in your New Testament that condemn homosexuality." To which I responded with a question...did Jesus Christ condemn homosexuality?

Somehow, this has become a conversation about Jesus approving of homosexuality. He didn't say anything on the topic. What about that don't you get?

Your brain is a strange, strange place man. You're really a fucking idiot.

why do you keep avoiding the question? instead of acting like a petulant child, you could just say no. i don't read every single post on here and was responding specifically to YOU. and even after reading the quote, i would still ask the question. i was curious as to what YOU believe. so far you have ranted and raved, insulted, frothed at the mouth, but you haven't answered the question.

any rational and sane person would have just said:

no, i don't believe jesus not saying something about it means he implicitly supports it.

so, you either believe he implicitly supports it because he didn't expressly saying anything about it, or you are not a rational and sane person. which is it?
 
why do you keep avoiding the question? instead of acting like a petulant child, you could just say no. i don't read every single post on here and was responding specifically to YOU. and even after reading the quote, i would still ask the question. i was curious as to what YOU believe. so far you have ranted and raved, insulted, frothed at the mouth, but you haven't answered the question.

any rational and sane person would have just said:

no, i don't believe jesus not saying something about it means he implicitly supports it.

so, you either believe he implicitly supports it because he didn't expressly saying anything about it, or you are not a rational and sane person. which is it?

Jesus Christ, our lord & savior, please help me with this really stupid person....
 
Jesus Christ, our lord & savior, please help me with this really stupid person....

alias said NT, you said jesus. do jesus' words represent the whole NT? because that is what you are implying by your irrational posting.

and you're still avoiding the question. that tells me all i need to know. thanks.
 
alias said NT, you said jesus. do jesus' words represent the whole NT? because that is what you are implying by your irrational posting.

and you're still avoiding the question. that tells me all i need to know. thanks.

Christianity, to me (a Christian) = what Christ said, and his teachings. And there is nothing in the NT "condemning" homosexuality.
 
alias said NT, you said jesus. do jesus' words represent the whole NT? because that is what you are implying by your irrational posting.

and you're still avoiding the question. that tells me all i need to know. thanks.

Oncelor: He didn't say anything on the topic.

Unreal yurtsie.... you truly have selective reading skills.
 
I can take it just fine cocksucker.
I am here to debate, not to watch you troll up the joint.

Return of Dune: "The OT was written so cretins like you would know not to fuck your sisters and daughters. Homosexuality was banned to preserve sperm so the people could "be fruitful and multiply".

Yes, we can all see you're here to debate.
 
Christianity, to me (a Christian) = what Christ said, and his teachings. And there is nothing in the NT "condemning" homosexuality.

what was your point then about specifically talking about christ and saying he didn't "rant" about it? did he rant about murder?

the NT does condemn homosexuality, but i believe you disregard that text due to translation stuff. you specifically brought up jesus and now are back peddling away and including the entire NT.

good job!
 
Christianity, to me (a Christian) = what Christ said, and his teachings. And there is nothing in the NT "condemning" homosexuality.

You're wrong.

Romans 1:26-27....."Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error."

I Corinthians 6:9-10....."Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor [a]effeminate, nor homosexuals, nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God."
 
Again... your 'logic' (and I do use that term very loosely with you).... is severely flawed.

Your analogy with Hitler was severely flawed as well. Again, saying "I believe in the Bible" is vastly different than your comment above.

And so basically, you are going to bow up and yammer that my logic is flawed... severely. Well that's just fine, we've gone as far down the debate road as we can now, you have thus ended the journey. If you are too intellectually dishonest to address my points in a rational way, we can't have meaningful dialogue. It's obvious you are emotionally distraught and allowing your hatred for religion to cloud your thinking.

Nothing is flawed in the point I made or the analogy I gave, and I refuse to allow you to twist and pervert my words into your own meanings and intentions. You can play that game with others if you like, I don't care, but my words are posted (with explanation) for all who want to read them. You can repost them and make the letters big and bold as you see fit, and take what I said out of context to drive home your pointless 'point'.... well done.... good Atheist Godless Attack on Religion! Maybe the Atheists will give you a prize? As for here, you've shown what an absolute dishonest ASS you can be, congratulations!
 
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