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Alias said:
That's your opinion, but it's hardly a coherent argument. Try again.
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Ironic.

Many people cite religious fantasy as the reason they do not support marriage equality for gays. However, this is a diversion on your part.

You asked: Have gays been denied their "rights" in this country for over 200 years simply because marriage is defined as a man and a woman?

The answer is yes.

Bringing people of color into it is irrelevant to your original question. Also, you apparently labor under the delusion that people of color can't be religious (aka; idiots). That's racist.
 
Alias said:
Thanks. Explain to me how two men or two women consummate a marriage.
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con·sum·mate
   /v. ˈkɒnsəˌmeɪt; adj. kənˈsʌmɪt, ˈkɒnsəmɪt/ Show Spelled [v. kon-suh-meyt; adj. kuhn-suhm-it, kon-suh-mit] Show IPA verb, -mat·ed, -mat·ing, adjective
verb (used with object)
1.
to bring to a state of perfection; fulfill.
2.
to complete (an arrangement, agreement, or the like) by a pledge or the signing of a contract: The company consummated its deal to buy a smaller firm.
3.
to complete (the union of a marriage) by the first marital sexual intercourse.

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sexual intercourse definition
Function: n
1 : heterosexual intercourse involving penetration of the vagina by the penis : COITUS
2 : intercourse (as anal or oral intercourse) that does not involve penetration of the vagina by the penis
 
brazenhussy said:
Ironic.

Many people cite religious fantasy as the reason they do not support marriage equality for gays. However, this is a diversion on your part.

You asked: Have gays been denied their "rights" in this country for over 200 years simply because marriage is defined as a man and a woman?

The answer is yes.

Bringing people of color into it is irrelevant to your original question. Also, you apparently labor under the delusion that people of color can't be religious (aka; idiots). That's racist.
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My point in bringing up people of color was to show that this is not a "civil rights" issue. Do you see that?
 
Alias said:
Nope. Do two men or two women have the ability to consumate a marriage?
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The difference you half wit is the NY Yankees are a PRIVATE organization.

Marriage is RUN BY THE GOVERNMENT.... which is for the PEOPLE as a whole.

That said, yes, a gay couple can consummate a marriage.
 
brazenhussy said:
con·sum·mate
   /v. ˈkɒnsəˌmeɪt; adj. kənˈsʌmɪt, ˈkɒnsəmɪt/ Show Spelled [v. kon-suh-meyt; adj. kuhn-suhm-it, kon-suh-mit] Show IPA verb, -mat·ed, -mat·ing, adjective
verb (used with object)
1.
to bring to a state of perfection; fulfill.
2.
to complete (an arrangement, agreement, or the like) by a pledge or the signing of a contract: The company consummated its deal to buy a smaller firm.
3.
to complete (the union of a marriage) by the first marital sexual intercourse.

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sexual intercourse definition
Function: n
1 : heterosexual intercourse involving penetration of the vagina by the penis : COITUS
2 : intercourse (as anal or oral intercourse) that does not involve penetration of the vagina by the penis
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The anus and the mouth are not sexual organs. The vagina and the penis are sexual organs that are used to consummate a marriage. I disagree with your definition. Do you have a link?
 
Alias said:
My point in bringing up people of color was to show that this is not a "civil rights" issue. Do you see that?
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No.

Just as former Holocaust victims can today support concentration camp-like conditions for Palestinians, so can victims of civil rights abuse support inequality for the other.

In other words; people of color can be just as hypocritical and selfish as white guys.
 
Onceler said:
They absolutely do. Maybe that's where you're getting confused?
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Two men don't have a vagina. Two women don't have a penis. You're gonna have to change the definition of consummation of marriage to make your point and that is the point I am making. The new age secular progressive movement is all about changing traditional culture and definitions to make perversion acceptable.
 
Superfreak said:
The difference you half wit is the NY Yankees are a PRIVATE organization.

Marriage is RUN BY THE GOVERNMENT.... which is for the PEOPLE as a whole.

That said, yes, a gay couple can consummate a marriage.
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You just lost the debate by name calling. Bye.
 
Alias said:
The anus and the mouth are not sexual organs. The vagina and the penis are sexual organs that are used to consummate a marriage. I disagree with your definition. Do you have a link?
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The definitions are from this thing called a dictionary. If you don't have one, you should invest.

The belief that penetrative vaginal intercourse is the only "real sex" is a male supremacist delusion. A lot of insecure males do cling to it though. It's really irrelevant what you disagree with. Your being kicked out of bedrooms all across this country as people become more and more educated and less and less bigoted against gays.

Cling all you want.
 
Alias said:
Two men don't have a vagina. Two women don't have a penis. You're gonna have to change the definition of consummation of marriage to make your point and that is the point I am making. The new age secular progressive movement is all about changing traditional culture and definitions to make perversion acceptable.
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No, you don't have to change the definition. And what business is it of yours who seals the deal with sex and who doesn't? You seriously can't believe that there are no heterosexual marriages that have not been "consummated" according to your narrow definition of the word. It's really none of your business. Find something that is. I suggest you start with your own backyard.
 
brazenhussy said:
The definitions are from this thing called a dictionary. If you don't have one, you should invest.

The belief that penetrative vaginal intercourse is the only "real sex" is a male supremacist delusion. A lot of insecure males do cling to it though. It's really irrelevant what you disagree with. Your being kicked out of bedrooms all across this country as people become more and more educated and less and less bigoted against gays.

Cling all you want.
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I'd like to see the dictionary you used. Do you have a link? Thanks.
 
brazenhussy said:
No, you don't have to change the definition. And what business is it of yours who seals the deal with sex and who doesn't? You seriously can't believe that there are no heterosexual marriages that have not been "consummated" according to your narrow definition of the word. It's really none of your business. Find something that is. I suggest you start with your own backyard.
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I'm not the topic. The definition of marriage has been established long before you or I entered the scene.
 
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