DamnYankee
Loyal to the end
GED, KKK, poor.Because like your chick lit teeth brit petro's safety record is full of gaps. burn!
GED, KKK, poor.Because like your chick lit teeth brit petro's safety record is full of gaps. burn!
Originally Posted by Taichiliberal
I'm talking to the originator of this thread. And you live across the ocean, and BP is NOT going to effect your paycheck, so WTF do care so much as if it's on YOUR doorstep!
Bottom line: my points are valid even if you don't like them. And my "caring" is as legitimate as yours...more so because we're talking about a direct threat to a sector of our seafood/coastal areas (NOT just the Florida coast)...which will have some effect at the grocer nationwide.
This does have a direct effect on both British pensions and financial institutions, as indeed it will also have on Americans as well. The seafood issue is a red herring, no pun intended, because so much comes from SE Asia now, fishermen were already struggling so if anything they are likely to be better off with the compensation payments.
You've got it wrong, Tom. BP investors will be affected, BP employees will be affected, and yes there will be an effect on the economy (ie, stock market), but the entire financial/social structure of England, let alone the UK, will not implode because of this. YOU won't lose your livelihood (unless you are one of the forementioned) and neither will the average schmoe on the street. And your statement regarding the American fishermen in the area is incorrect.....as just today one of the largest clam suppliers for the nation is shutting down until further notice. That's just one example. I strongly suggest you do more research on the subject beside listening to pro-BP talking points.
Just for once, I would like you to outline what you think is a sensible energy policy for the US to pursue rather than just throw your toys out of the pram every time somebody says something you don't like.
BTW - Tom, if you really want to know why BP is taking all the blame, it is because their PR department knows that if they try to defend themselves it will make them look even worse to the public. It is better if they "own up" even if they only had a part in the failure, and to pay. Later the truth can come out and they'll look golden.
Of course the truth isn't going to come out, the only people on the commission are policy wonks and they'll want to protect their own. So the government giving them waivers at every step to do exactly what they did will probably be spoken of only on "Right Wing News" outlets and blogs.
That your messiah is a failure.
During the campaign he specifically said that a shakeup was on the way, instead we got more of the same, until it was found he was an incompetent boob. His appointee had 1 1/2 years to do something, and that is a significant time to make a very strong "shakeup" happen.So far, you've had the President point out that the very agency responsible for monitoring and regulating the oil companies was rift with folks more patronizing than patroling...so a shake up is in the works.
So far, you've have had the involvement of Haliburton and other US entities revealed.
So what is this untold "truth" that you are insinuating?
During the campaign he specifically said that a shakeup was on the way, instead we got more of the same, until it was found he was an incompetent boob. His appointee had 1 1/2 years to do something, and that is a significant time to make a very strong "shakeup" happen.
This same group that was supposed to be fixed by Obama simply gave waivers to the very drill the blew up, gave them safety awards, and approved anything and everything they wanted. Then when the brown stuff hit the electrical convenience it was suddenly "time" to make the changes...
He didn't even know that his appointee had gotten fired, when asked he was simply at a total loss. This isn't a President that is plugged into anything, he's inept and a sad leader.
Too bad he's too beholden to the unions to suspend the Jones Act so we could have still more ships cleaning it up...
And the "revelation" of Halliburton is rather sad, really. When you heard the people who worked there saying that Halliburton employees argued with BP about safety violations it tends to make you look a bit differently at their actions...
The untold "truth" that I talk about is the complicity of Obama appointees in not only allowing, but rewarding the actions of BP and their cohorts.
How ironic.So the Southern Man offers NOTHING of worth to my challenge to Damo besides dated neocon sour grape mantras. Pity the Southern Man folks...
Dude, when you're talking during a campaign about specifically overhauling the MMS, and you appoint somebody to do it, 1 1/2 years later they are still doing exactly what they did before (some cases even worse), yeah. That's Obama's fault. You can attempt to deflect onto Salazar (he's at fault too), but the buck for this one really does stop at the desk of the President who promised to overhaul the very office he paid so little attention to that he didn't even know his appointee was being fired...bp may not have been the only company involved with the spill, but they were in charge - bho may be president, but he is not god and has had to depend on subordinates like salazar - maybe he should sack salazar, but then the department of the interior will be an even bigger mess for a while until the new guy can get a grip on it - there is a lot of interior in the u s of a
Originally Posted by Taichiliberal
So far, you've had the President point out that the very agency responsible for monitoring and regulating the oil companies was rift with folks more patronizing than patroling...so a shake up is in the works.
So far, you've have had the involvement of Haliburton and other US entities revealed.
So what is this untold "truth" that you are insinuating?
During the campaign he specifically said that a shakeup was on the way, instead we got more of the same, until it was found he was an incompetent boob. His appointee had 1 1/2 years to do something, and that is a significant time to make a very strong "shakeup" happen.
True, she screwed up..and now she's being held accountable for it, as Salazaar fired her. Mind you, I didn't here a peep of criticism about her from you or anyone else when the "drill baby, drill" mantra was being bandied about.
This same group that was supposed to be fixed by Obama simply gave waivers to the very drill the blew up, gave them safety awards, and approved anything and everything they wanted. Then when the brown stuff hit the electrical convenience it was suddenly "time" to make the changes...
See above answer.
He didn't even know that his appointee had gotten fired, when asked he was simply at a total loss. This isn't a President that is plugged into anything, he's inept and a sad leader.
Oh puh-leeze, Damo! If you're going to parrot teabagger hyperbole, at least be creative enough to change the writing style. Birnbaum was a lousy pick, and I like others have LONG criticized Obama for not having a heavier hand in restructuring the very organizations that were revamped under the Shrub & company. But I dare say you didn't have the same response time in change of guard when the Shrub had major foul-ups by his appointees (example: Rumsfeld)
Too bad he's too beholden to the unions to suspend the Jones Act so we could have still more ships cleaning it up...
Too bad you have selective amnesia about the party of NO GOPers that bitch and stall about ANY changes from the Obama White House. Given past examples, I could just imagine all the noise if Obama used his Executive mandate to just by-pass the Jones Act (I could just hear Peter King going on about Homeland Security issues). But as the Coast Guard said, they're already using equipment from foreign gov'ts.
And the "revelation" of Halliburton is rather sad, really. When you heard the people who worked there saying that Halliburton employees argued with BP about safety violations it tends to make you look a bit differently at their actions...
Mmm, not quite:
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/gre...an-focuses-on-halliburton-cementing-job-.html
The untold "truth" that I talk about is the complicity of Obama appointees in not only allowing, but rewarding the actions of BP and their cohorts.
Originally Posted by Taichiliberal
So the Southern Man offers NOTHING of worth to my challenge to Damo besides dated neocon sour grape mantras. Pity the Southern Man folks...
How ironic.
Hey Chicklet? No thanks, I've got Bazooka! What does it look like inside Obama's ass? Just curious!
Sure I do Libby. Its when you accuse others of exactly what you do. In this case: sour grapes.You don't even know when to properly apply the word, Southy.![]()
Hey Chicklet? What does it look like inside Obama's ass? Just curious!
Wrestling and tennis are both gay sports, Tiny Man.YOU ought to know man ass being your specialty![]()
You are wrong, partisanly so, I can blame him for not suspending the Jones Act almost immediately (still hasn't) and allowing people to begin clean up. I can point out that his administration has been incapable of taking a lead on this, touting the 20 Billion as their only "victory" as they stand and watch the oil come onto our shores. They even were slow to approve American ships with a capacity to remove the oil from the water.But when the evidence YOU give is examined, Damo, it shows that the ONLY Obama appointee (Birnbaum) was a total ineffective rubber stamper, and NOT complicit in the construction and operation like Halliburton and the BP managers & sub-contractors were. You can blame Obama for a lousy appointee, but that's about it.
It is the government's responsibility to monitor BP and make sure they are adhering to the regulations we have established. This is why we fund the MMS, this is why we pass the laws and make the regulations. What we have discovered is, the people in government who were supposed to be doing this, were accepting bribes, letting the oil companies write their own evaluations, and surfing porn on the Internet while they were supposed to be working.
What's really astonishing is, the liberals will now push for even MORE regulations and restrictions, and even MORE governmental oversight, when that wasn't the problem!