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SmarterthanYou said:
I notice that you completely avoided answering my offer of all the 1st, 4th, 5th, and 6th Amendment cases I was willing to forward to you in order to totally destroy your bullshit supposition.
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I notice you are enjoying jerking off on my thread a tactic designed to minimize women's issues while you DEMAND we only talk about your pet man issue. I really think you have crossed a line here today, one I won't forget.
 
evince did get it right.. but I'll try one more time:

STY, let's ask you something: Do you think the govt has the right to tell a person what medical procedure to undergo (assuming they are an adult of sound mind)? Do NOT relate this to anything else; don't ask how I feel about a completely different issue; Just please answer that question. Yes or no?
 
Darla said:
I notice you are enjoying jerking off on my thread a tactic designed to minimize women's issues while you DEMAND we only talk about your pet man issue. I really think you have crossed a line here today, one I won't forget.
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maybe you got your panties in too tight a wad to actually figure out what's going on. I understand, it's tough facing ones shortcomings.
 
tekkychick said:
evince did get it right.. but I'll try one more time:

STY, let's ask you something: Do you think the govt has the right to tell a person what medical procedure to undergo (assuming they are an adult of sound mind)? Do NOT relate this to anything else; don't ask how I feel about a completely different issue; Just please answer that question. Yes or no?
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Especially when the doctors don't think the procedure is necessary?
 
tekkychick said:
evince did get it right.. but I'll try one more time:

STY, let's ask you something: Do you think the govt has the right to tell a person what medical procedure to undergo (assuming they are an adult of sound mind)? Do NOT relate this to anything else; don't ask how I feel about a completely different issue; Just please answer that question. Yes or no?
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no, i do not feel that the govt has the right or authority to order such a thing.

again, everybody is too focused on darla's inflammatory language to realize that 1) i'm being extremely sarcastic to prove a point, and 2) just how hypocritical and obtuse everyone is being about it.
 
SmarterthanYou said:
no, i do not feel that the govt has the right or authority to order such a thing.

again, everybody is too focused on darla's inflammatory language to realize that 1) i'm being extremely sarcastic to prove a point, and 2) just how hypocritical and obtuse everyone is being about it.
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Thank you. And perhaps you need to indicate when it's sarcasm since none of us "got it"
 
tekkychick said:
(might borrow a sarcasm card from Sheldon Cooper...(smile) )
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evince said:
and in so doing you kill the union.


you hate democracy huh?
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If people don't want to be in a Union why do you want to force them? I am fine with people not being in a union while others are. If the Union gets better wages then the non-union members should not benefit from it. At the same time, Hostess went out of business because unions were not will to compromise during tough economic times. Tell me, in your house when you are short on money do some people get to continue spending like there is no problem. I imagine not.
 
Socrtease said:
If people don't want to be in a Union why do you want to force them? I am fine with people not being in a union while others are. If the Union gets better wages then the non-union members should not benefit from it. At the same time, Hostess went out of business because unions were not will to compromise during tough economic times. Tell me, in your house when you are short on money do some people get to continue spending like there is no problem. I imagine not.
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http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/11/16/1162243/-The-unions-killed-Hostess-another-right-wing-myth
 
evince said:
Dude they can work elsewhere.

they cant work where the union has improved their income and benefits without paying to support the Union that maintains and protects those things when everyone else is paying for it.


The only reason you pretend its force is so you can rationalize killing the unions by starving them
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If unions are so good for workers why would ANY worker not want to be a member. Realistically the dues are not that steep, so there has to be some other reason people wouldn't want to be in a union to the point that it "starved" the union
 
Socrtease said:
If unions are so good for workers why would ANY worker not want to be a member. Realistically the dues are not that steep, so there has to be some other reason people wouldn't want to be in a union to the point that it "starved" the union
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They don't want to pay the dues, but want the benefits, we see it with tax protestors as well. They think these things just happen magically. They are usually the first ones complaining when services are cut or wages and benefits decrease!
 
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Rana said:
They don't want to pay the dues, but want the benefits, we see it with tax protestors as well. They think these things just happen magically. They are usually the irst ones complaining when services or cut or wages and benefits decrease!
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Like I said, the dues are not that serious. The average GM autoworker pays less than $1000 per year, Ford and Chrysler both pay less than $700 per year. They would barely notice it had been taken from their check. Yet EVEN with all the advantages of union membership other car companies employees are opting not to unionized and even employees of the big 3 don't want to be members. Why is that?
 
Socrtease said:
If unions are so good for workers why would ANY worker not want to be a member. Realistically the dues are not that steep, so there has to be some other reason people wouldn't want to be in a union to the point that it "starved" the union
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for the same reasons people believed that sadam did 911 to the tune of like 70 %
 
tekkychick said:
I think it goes back to controlling uppity people -whether it's women, minorities, or low paid employees who want a fair shake.

It's a sign I guess of how successful feminism has been that they are lashing back so hard. But I wish they would think of their mothers, daughters, wives, nieces, sisters, etc before they propose or sign this crap.

We need to be more successful - we need a lot more women in office. Women in office DO make a difference. Yes, there are conservative women who might go along with this bill. But there are a lot of republican women - elected officials - who speak out against it.

Love the slate article.
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I don't agree with that. They're is a lack of accontability for women towards their own political fate. The population of women is 51%. A clear majority of the population. In addtion to that 56% of those women are married. Meaning they have a direct influence over the beliefs and values of 56% of the adult male population. Now.....as most married men here would probably attest to, that a womans contribution towards the beliefs and values of a family are quite, to say the least, formidable.

I do see in this issue a failure of women, as a political coalition, actively organizing and educating their sisters that prohibitions on womens reproductive rights by legislatures dominated by conservative males is a strike at the very core of liberty for all women. Ya'll need to get out there proactively and motivate your sisters with the knowledge that if a man controls your reproductive rights, he controls you and that you essentially have no liberty. Only those granted to you by your pater familiaris.

Now this isn't an attempt to marginalize the historic and cultural obstacles women have had in regards to their personal liberties. I am aware of those factors and I appreciate the obstacles but that doesn't change the fact that in terms of reproductive rights you women have your fate in your own hands. You just need to go out there and educate your sisters cause preaching from the mountain top isn't getting the job done.
 
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