Russia’s ‘Dirty Bomb’ Scare

Phoenyx said:
I write a long opening post for this thread, citing 2 different articles, and you start off with that. As I just told Dutch Uncle, as soon as I see signs that a poster doesn't respect me or the hard work I put into making threads is around the time that I stop listening to what they have to say in a post.
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As an articulate member with sincere values and a novel slant on politics you will attract the conditioned forum dross. Pretty soon you're likely to discover that the uncivil dead-heads sullying your threads begins to mirror my thread-banned list.


Haw, haw..................................haw.
 
moon said:
As an articulate member with sincere values and a novel slant on politics you will attract the conditioned forum dross. Pretty soon you're likely to discover that the uncivil dead-heads sullying your threads begins to mirror my thread-banned list.


Haw, haw..................................haw.
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You defend Putin at every turn


He’s making himself out to be your clone
 
Scott Ritter was once a reliable authority on Nuclear weapons and our Nuclear adversaries.

I agreed with him in lock step that the IRAQ war was a scam to enrich certain companies, certain privileged individuals, and the Industrial WAR COMPLEX, as well as make Bush a wartime president for certain political gain.

I never agreed with him that the Iran Deal was a scam to allow Iran to continue developing nuclear weapons.

And then the man ended up in prison for being an attempted child molester that was caught through more than one sting.

So, no one knows what goes on in his mind today.

But his narrative is this- THE UNITED STATES IS BEING ACCUSED OF HELPING ASSIST THE UKRAINE IN DEVELOPING A DIRTY BOMB BY PUTIN- SO HE IS ALL IN WITH THIS LIE HOOK, LINE, AND SINKER!

THIS IS ABOUT A MAN WHO NOW HATES THE COUNTRY THAT CONVICTED HIM OF SEEKING SEX WITH UNDERAGE GIRLS AND PUT HIM IN PRISON FOR IT!

He is an antagonist and unreliable source of information now!

Ritter rejects the Western media's coverage of the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine and has voiced his perspective on multiple podcasts, including FOX NEWS Andrew Napolitano's. On April 6, 2022, Ritter was suspended from Twitter for violating its rule on "harassment and abuse" after he posted a tweet falsely claiming that the National Police of Ukraine is responsible for the Bucha massacre and calling U.S. President Joe Biden a "war criminal" for "seeking to shift blame for the Bucha murders" to Russia.
Scott Ritter writes various NATO-critical articles for the Russian channel RT (formerly Russia Today).

In July 2022, Ritter was added to a list of pro-Russia propagandists and sympathizers compiled by the Ukrainian Center for Countering Disinformation.

NEXT!
 
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evince said:
Why are you promoting Russian propaganda as valid?
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She's another anti-Western tool of Putin's war in Ukraine.

She's implying that Russia has a "right" to launch tactical nukes into Ukraine because the Ukrainians "might" detonate a dirty bomb.

Since Ukraine doesn't have nukes but can manufacture Dirty Bombs, it's a smart play to have some Dirty Bombs ready to detonate in Russia should Putin use nukes in Ukraine.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
You can change your username, Miss.
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There you go again, disrespecting me. I'm beginning to think that moon has a point about making a thread banned list. Still hoping you come around to at least -starting- without insulting me. I acknowledge that for the start of this thread, you in essence carried the conversation with me up until post 10.
 
evince said:
Limit your detractors message


See how well that works for you
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I have, elsewhere. I've found it works quite well, at least when it comes to my detractors who make things personal. Generally speaking, finding people to discuss things with in forums has not been my problem.

evince said:
If you want to debate

Stop taking things personally
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I'll turn that one around on you- if you want people to listen to what you have to say, stop making things personal.
 
Phoenyx said:
There you go again, disrespecting me. I'm beginning to think that moon has a point about making a thread banned list. Still hoping you come around to at least -starting- without insulting me. I acknowledge that for the start of this thread, you in essence carried the conversation with me up until post 10.
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My first instinct since you posted was that you and Moon are a lot closer than you are admitting. The first clue was you didn't know the American spelling of Phoenix. The second was your pro-Russian/anti-Western stance.

Lastly was that you had a choice; to react to me calling a person using a girl's name "Ms" or my comments about dirty bombs and Occam's Razor. You made a choice. :)

PS. Ms. Moon hates the US and Jews. She's always posting "Death to Israel" one way or another. Regardless if you ban me or not, I expect you'll be doing the same soon too.

moon said:
As an articulate member with sincere values and a novel slant on politics you will attract the conditioned forum dross. Pretty soon you're likely to discover that the uncivil dead-heads sullying your threads begins to mirror my thread-banned list.


Haw, haw..................................haw.
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QED. LOL
 
Phoenyx said:
I have, elsewhere. I've found it works quite well, at least when it comes to my detractors who make things personal. Generally speaking, finding people to discuss things with in forums has not been my problem.



I'll turn that one around on you- if you want people to listen to what you have to say, stop making things personal.
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What you think works may not be a good example of what works


We are facing a huge push of foreign influence on our nation of disinformation


We can’t believe Putins lackeys on anything


Why do you seem to value their statements?
 
evince said:
You are taking the word of Russians promoted by Putin
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Not that Russian authors aren't capable of providing informative insights into this conflict, but I have not referenced a single Russian author in this thread as far as I know. In the opening thread, I cited an article from the New York Times, hardly considered a bastion of Russian thought, and an article from former Marine Intelligence Officer Scott Ritter. I believe I also referenced former Swiss Intelligence Officer Jacques Baud in this thread as well.
 
Phoenyx said:
Not that Russian authors aren't capable of providing informative insights into this conflict, but I have not referenced a single Russian author in this thread as far as I know. In the opening thread, I cited an article from the New York Times, hardly considered a bastion of Russian thought, and an article from former Marine Intelligence Officer Scott Ritter. I believe I also referenced former Swiss Intelligence Officer Jacques Baud in this thread as well.
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So is it your contention that Russia will, or will not, use a dirty bomb or a tactical nuke in Ukraine? If they were to do so, what would you expect the U.S. response to be?
 
Why would Russia bother with a dirty bomb? Those are nearly worthless except as a terrorist weapon. If you can hit a target with a dirty bomb, why not hit it with something that will do real and serious damage instead? Spreading around some radiological material that consists of mostly alpha and beta emitters (types of radiation for you Leftist scientific illiterates) does little or nothing compared to blowing shit up or coating everything in mustard gas.

Hell, with cooler weather mustard gas is the gift that keeps on giving. It would produce horrific and immediate casualties for months. Conventional explosives and things like fuel-air explosives would demolish buildings and create immediate casualties or a large area. A dirty bomb is mostly a scare tactic. People won't be affected by one for months, or years. It's mostly a pollution problem and little more.

I guess the tards at the NYTs never took any science courses either...
 
Jacques Baud appeared on Russian TV claiming Putin doesn’t poison his enemies, they just had food poisoning, I think I’ll pass on his authority.
 
Phoenyx said:
There you go again, disrespecting me. I'm beginning to think that moon has a point about making a thread banned list. Still hoping you come around to at least -starting- without insulting me. I acknowledge that for the start of this thread, you in essence carried the conversation with me up until post 10.
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We insult russian propaganda


It is the patriotic thing to do
 
T. A. Gardner said:
Why would Russia bother with a dirty bomb? Those are nearly worthless except as a terrorist weapon. If you can hit a target with a dirty bomb, why not hit it with something that will do real and serious damage instead? Spreading around some radiological material that consists of mostly alpha and beta emitters (types of radiation for you Leftist scientific illiterates) does little or nothing compared to blowing shit up or coating everything in mustard gas.

Hell, with cooler weather mustard gas is the gift that keeps on giving. It would produce horrific and immediate casualties for months. Conventional explosives and things like fuel-air explosives would demolish buildings and create immediate casualties or a large area. A dirty bomb is mostly a scare tactic. People won't be affected by one for months, or years. It's mostly a pollution problem and little more.

I guess the tards at the NYTs never took any science courses either...
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Suck that Putin cock
 
Phoenyx said:
Not that Russian authors aren't capable of providing informative insights into this conflict, but I have not referenced a single Russian author in this thread as far as I know. In the opening thread, I cited an article from the New York Times, hardly considered a bastion of Russian thought, and an article from former Marine Intelligence Officer Scott Ritter. I believe I also referenced former Swiss Intelligence Officer Jacques Baud in this thread as well.
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You named Russians as Ritters source
 
Phoenyx;
Russia appears to be legitimately concerned about the possibility of Ukraine building and using a “dirty bomb,” so much so that it has taken the unprecedented step of reaching out to multiple senior Western defense authorities.
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There are those that acknowledge the FACT that Ukraine has/had a neo-Nazi problem as personified by its Azov regiment- many of whom the Russians killed at Mariupol- and there are those that don't, despite the FACT of there being countless photos of them with swastikas and other Nazi paraphernalia. The Azovs- and their neo-Nazi henchmen- had no problem burning pro-Russian trade-unionists alive during the 2014 US-led coup and they had no problem shelling these pro-Russian UKRAINIANS for eight years prior to the Russian intervention - so I can't imagine them having any qualms about exploding a dirty bomb among pro-Russian Ukrainians living in the newly-declared Donbas republics. If the Russians were willing to blow up their own gas pipelines- so the Nazi narrative would go- then they'd have no problem with blowing up their own newly-acquired territory . That is the Russian worry, I believe- and the reason they are taking their concerns to the UN.

( Cue some JPP fellatio obsessives )

Haw, haw............................haw.
 
evince said:
Phoenyx said:
evince said:
Utter stupidity
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I write a long opening post for this thread, citing 2 different articles, and you start off with that. As I just told Dutch Uncle, as soon as I see signs that a poster doesn't respect me or the hard work I put into making threads is around the time that I stop listening to what they have to say in a post.
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Why are you promoting Russian propaganda as valid?
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What "Russian propaganda"? Neither of the 2 articles I cited in the opening post were even from Russian news outlets. The first was the New York Times, the second was from Consortium News.
 
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