Russia’s ‘Dirty Bomb’ Scare

Well, never mind then. Life is far too precious to waste with conspiracy theories and theorists. Russia invaded Ukraine. End of scenario.

All of which indicates to me that Ms. Phoenyx is a Euro - either Eastern or Western, but certainly a Euro. Her attitude and spelling differences indicate she's not from around here. LOL
 
Russia certainly put boots on the ground in Ukraine, but I don't call it an invasion because of what invasions typically mean- that is, to conquer a place, generally for resources. Putin gave 2 reasons for his military operation in Ukraine- Russia's national security and protecting the citizens of the Donbass region. Now, if he'd just made a flowery speech on the day he started his military opeartion, that'd be one thing. The fact of the matter, however, is that Russia had been warning the west for years that they were crossing the line of what Russia was willing to tolerate.

The U.S. had no qualms about putting up a blockade around Cuba during the Cuban missile crisis and had some secret negotiations not taken place between the JFK administration and Russia, it's quite possible a nuclear war might have started. The U.S. had certainly drawn up plans of occupying Cuba. Now the U.S. is playing in Russia's backyard and for some reason they're indignant when Russia reminds the U.S. of what happened when Russia was doing the same not so long ago.

QED
 
Russia certainly put boots on the ground in Ukraine, but I don't call it an invasion because of what invasions typically mean- that is, to conquer a place, generally for resources. Putin gave 2 reasons for his military operation in Ukraine- Russia's national security and protecting the citizens of the Donbass region. Now, if he'd just made a flowery speech on the day he started his military opeartion, that'd be one thing. The fact of the matter, however, is that Russia had been warning the west for years that they were crossing the line of what Russia was willing to tolerate.

The U.S. had no qualms about putting up a blockade around Cuba during the Cuban missile crisis and had some secret negotiations not taken place between the JFK administration and Russia, it's quite possible a nuclear war might have started. The U.S. had certainly drawn up plans of occupying Cuba. Now the U.S. is playing in Russia's backyard and for some reason they're indignant when Russia reminds the U.S. of what happened when Russia was doing the same not so long ago.

And you believe Putin's stated reasons, rather than the truth. :rolleyes:
 
And you believe Putin's stated reasons, rather than the truth. :rolleyes:

I do believe Putin's stated reasons, yes. The reason I believe them is because Russia has consistently berated NATO, and the U.S. in particular for its role in breaking its word concerning not expanding NATO east of Germany. This is hardly news, but some have only recently come to realize this. A quick internet search found the following article on the subject:

When Washington Assured Russia NATO Would Not Expand | The American Conservative


Plenty of evidence that some U.S. scholars and diplomats suspected what would happen because of NATO's expansion:

US gov’t knew NATO expansion to Ukraine would force Russia to intervene | multipolarista.com


And then there's the Donbass citizens themselves. I personally believe their plight was more important than NATO's expansion. As mentioned in my previous post to you, I made a thread that I believe does a great job of laying out the evidence of how Ukraine's treatment of citizens in the Donbass region led directly to Russia putting boots on the ground in Ukraine.
 
I do believe Putin's stated reasons, yes. The reason I believe them is because Russia has consistently berated NATO, and the U.S. in particular for its role in breaking its word concerning not expanding NATO east of Germany. This is hardly news, but some have only recently come to realize this. A quick internet search found the following article on the subject:

When Washington Assured Russia NATO Would Not Expand | The American Conservative


Plenty of evidence that some U.S. scholars and diplomats suspected what would happen because of NATO's expansion:

US gov’t knew NATO expansion to Ukraine would force Russia to intervene | multipolarista.com


And then there's the Donbass citizens themselves. I personally believe their plight was more important than NATO's expansion. As mentioned in my previous post to you, I made a thread that I believe does a great job of laying out the evidence of how Ukraine's treatment of citizens in the Donbass region led directly to Russia putting boots on the ground in Ukraine.

It seems to me that as a Putin sympathizer, you're searching out blogs and opinion pieces to bolster your POV rather than searching for truth. A peaceful Russia has nothing to fear from NATO. Europe, on the other hand, has much to fear from a rampaging Vlad.

How much do you get paid for spreading Desinformatsiya?
 
I've had this username for a lot longer than that. I have an account with this same username in another forum that I started over 10 years ago. I was inspired to use this username due mostly to the X-men's Phoenix character. I know she's female, but my name has a y in it, so I thought that'd differentiate it enough. Little did I know that Phoenyx with a y is still considered a female name -.- As I told Dutch Uncle, though, I'm ok with being an exception to the rule. It's not like Phoenyx with a y is a very common name anyway.

Thanks Dear!

Welcome to the Bullpin!

I'm just a Democracy lover and I don't like Autocrats like Putin.

I like the Russian people but not their leader.

And I'm suspicious of Russian Bots. I hope you understand why.

You've convinced me that you are not a Bot, Thanks!

Carry on!
 
It seems to me that as a Putin sympathizer, you're searching out blogs and opinion pieces to bolster your POV rather than searching for truth. A peaceful Russia has nothing to fear from NATO. Europe, on the other hand, has much to fear from a rampaging Vlad.

How much do you get paid for spreading Desinformatsiya?

Possibly the silliest "justification" given was that Putin invades a country that is no threat to his borders because of NATO expansion in a former "Iron Curtain" country that is now free and unified to do whatever the hell it wants. :beam:
 
Possibly the silliest "justification" given was that Putin invades a country that is no threat to his borders because of NATO expansion in a former "Iron Curtain" country that is now free and unified to do whatever the hell it wants. :beam:

Yep. "Phoenyx" reeks of a disinformation agent. Notice how the personality isn't as abrasive as most political partisans (like me) are, and how they quote from sources that deliberately try not to be inflammatory. They probably should choose a better battlefield. This one's got mines. lol
 
Yep. "Phoenyx" reeks of a disinformation agent. Notice how the personality isn't as abrasive as most political partisans (like me) are, and how they quote from sources that deliberately try not to be inflammatory. They probably should choose a better battlefield. This one's got mines. lol

It'd be better if she actually understood Americans better. Why do foreigners love to hate America?
 
It'd be better if she actually understood Americans better. Why do foreigners love to hate America?


I've got Oom off ignore for a while. It never seems to last very long, but it's open mic for now.

People don't hate America.
It's one of the finest stretches of real estate on the planet and most people know that.

They understandable hate the assholes who live here. That's the thing.
 
I've got Oom off ignore for a while. It never seems to last very long, but it's open mic for now.

People don't hate America.
It's one of the finest stretches of real estate on the planet and most people know that.

They understandable hate the assholes who live here. That's the thing.

Obviously, the foreigners on JPP do hate America, neef. They want to see it ripped apart and relegated to a backwater shithole.
 
Obviously, the foreigners on JPP do hate America, neef. They want to see it ripped apart and relegated to a backwater shithole.

Ah. I see.

I just want the backwater shithole parts to be partitioned from the relatively civilized states.

It wouldn't be bad, even for you, Dutch.
Nobody would make you stay in Texas.
 
I've got Oom off ignore for a while. It never seems to last very long, but it's open mic for now...

That lie is dumber than the people who advertise they have someone on ignore, neef. Pull your head out of your dilapidated ass and get some fresh air.
 
Obviously, the foreigners on JPP do hate America, neef. They want to see it ripped apart and relegated to a backwater shithole.

It's not just the non-Americans here that hate the United States. Most of the Reichwingers do too. They claim to love the country while hating over half the ppl who make up its population. They also appear to hate true freedom. They would dearly love it if they could have #TRE45ON as dear-leader-for-life, make Christianity the state religion, shove all those icky LGBTQ ppl back into the closets where they belong, and get the uppity brown ppl and uppity females back in their proper places -- serving white males. lol
 
Envy is probably a big reason. Also the perception that as a country we're arrogant and like to bully other countries.

Arrogant by Euro standards, yes. Not so much bully as powerful enough to persuade the majority to our way of thinking. Mostly the rich and powerful of whatever nation is at the center of the dispute.
 
It's not just the non-Americans here that hate the United States. Most of the Reichwingers do too. They claim to love the country while hating over half the ppl who make up its population. They also appear to hate true freedom. They would dearly love it if they could have #TRE45ON as dear-leader-for-life, make Christianity the state religion, shove all those icky LGBTQ ppl back into the closets where they belong, and get the uppity brown ppl and uppity females back in their proper places -- serving white males. lol

It's really an odd time seeing Republicans side with the Russians and seek to tear down American democracy. They should change their motto to "We had to destroy the Constitution so we could save it".

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