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It should be illegal for anyone to own any gun in a civilized country. Attorney General Holder will work hard with President Obama to make our people safe from gun crime. When that happens, you will comply with the law.
 
It should be illegal for anyone to own any gun in a civilized country. Attorney General Holder will work hard with President Obama to make our people safe from gun crime. When that happens, you will comply with the law.

you might want to google 'three percenters'.
 
typical liberal generalizations. all weapons owners are villains. This is why liberals are despised.

If you think you can persuade people that it's in their best interests to be able to own a small or even large scale military grade arsenal you go for it.

I'm trying to be supportive here but if you want to despise me, just go ahead. :D
 
It should be illegal for anyone to own any gun in a civilized country. Attorney General Holder will work hard with President Obama to make our people safe from gun crime. When that happens, you will comply with the law.

you do realize the scotus will overrule any such law
 
I know I have you when you start calling me troll.

The 2nd Amendment was written for a specific purpose… here's what it says:

“A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.”

I always get in trouble for this but I have got to say it again. The writers of the Constitution did not add the 2nd Amendment for individuals to own guns for personal use.

Here's three "freedoms" that have limitations and nobody is upset by them.

Speech - It's controlled. You can't yell "fire" in a crowded theater. No one goes crazy about that limitation.
Press - You can't libel someone. another limitation.
Vote - You can't if you don't register or are a felon.

OK - let's say everyone has the right to carry the very best quality weapons from 1783. I believe the Kentucky long rifle was the height of weaponry at the time, so let it be the top available arm now.

Likewise, the right to carry concealed arms should be adjusted. Make them unconcealed. Anybody who wants to carry must wear a holster. Of course, I would require said holster needs to be high visibility pink so that I can see it at 200 yards. That should take care of the macho crowd who compensate for other short-comings by packing.

If the 2nd amendment is to honored as originally written, let it be so.

SCOTUS says you are wrong....

and you are wrong, try reading the scotus decision and then get back to me
 
You do realize President Obama will be appointing 3 judges?

as i asked before, do you believe the scotus shoudl overrule itself simply because new judges come in?

apparently you do, and as such, you have no respect for the law or the court
 
the odds of the heller decision being overturned are nil, unless the courts cave in and forego their constitutional duties....the history of the second amendment is too clear and for you to simply ignore previous rulings based on yoru political leaning is unamerican and shows a total lack of regard for the 3rd branch of government.


Held:
1. The Second Amendment protects an individual right to possess a
firearm unconnected with service in a militia, and to use that arm for
traditionally lawful purposes, such as self-defense within the home
.
Pp. 2–53.
(a) The Amendment’s prefatory clause announces a purpose, but
does not limit or expand the scope of the second part, the operative
clause. The operative clause’s text and history demonstrate that it
connotes an individual right to keep and bear arms. Pp. 2–22.
(b) The prefatory clause comports with the Court’s interpretation
2 DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA v. HELLER
Syllabus
of the operative clause. The “militia” comprised all males physically
capable of acting in concert for the common defense. The Antifederalists
feared that the Federal Government would disarm the people in
order to disable this citizens’ militia, enabling a politicized standing
army or a select militia to rule. The response was to deny Congress
power to abridge the ancient right of individuals to keep and bear
arms, so that the ideal of a citizens’ militia would be preserved.
Pp. 22–28.
(c) The Court’s interpretation is confirmed by analogous armsbearing
rights in state constitutions that preceded and immediately
followed the Second Amendment
. Pp. 28–30.
(d) The Second Amendment’s drafting history, while of dubious
interpretive worth, reveals three state Second Amendment proposals
that unequivocally referred to an individual right to bear arms
.
Pp. 30–32.
(e) Interpretation of the Second Amendment by scholars, courts
and legislators, from immediately after its ratification through the
late 19th century also supports the Court’s conclusion
. Pp. 32–47.
(f) None of the Court’s precedents forecloses the Court’s interpretation.
Neither United States v. Cruikshank, 92 U. S. 542, 553, nor
Presser v. Illinois, 116 U. S. 252, 264–265, refutes the individualrights
interpretation. United States v. Miller, 307 U. S. 174, does not
limit the right to keep and bear arms to militia purposes, but rather
limits the type of weapon to which the right applies to those used by
the militia, i.e., those in common use for lawful purposes. Pp. 47–54.
2. Like most rights, the Second Amendment right is not unlimited.
It is not a right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any
manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose: For example, concealed
weapons prohibitions have been upheld under the Amendment
or state analogues. The Court’s opinion should not be taken to cast
doubt on longstanding prohibitions on the possession of firearms by
felons and the mentally ill, or laws forbidding the carrying of firearms
in sensitive places such as schools and government buildings, or
laws imposing conditions and qualifications on the commercial sale of
arms. Miller’s holding that the sorts of weapons protected are those
“in common use at the time” finds support in the historical tradition
of prohibiting the carrying of dangerous and unusual weapons.
Pp. 54–56.
 
Didn't the Supreme Court say slavery was legal at one point? Here's a news flash for you: now it isn't.



In spite of extensive recent discussion and much legislative action with respect to regulation of the purchase, possession, and transportation of firearms, as well as proposals to substantially curtail ownership of firearms, there is no definitive resolution by the courts of just what right the Second Amendment protects.

http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/data/constitution/amendment02/
 
If you think you can persuade people that it's in their best interests to be able to own a small or even large scale military grade arsenal you go for it.

I'm trying to be supportive here but if you want to despise me, just go ahead. :D

my question would be, why would it NOT be in your best interests to have military weaponry to keep your freedom?
 
I never said a bunch of rightwing terrorists would save anything. Wasn't Tim McVeigh one of the 3 percenters?

Tex-Ass has one of the worst records for lax gun laws, no wonder we need strong federal action to stop gun violence in Bushland.

http://www.bradycampaign.org/legislation/state/viewstate.php?st=tx

bradycampaign propoganda.....i fart in your general direction.

TX has lax gun laws? you're clearly stupid. Do you know what one has to go through to carry a gun here?
 
so what is the point of having a supreme court? if a president can simply pack the court or threaten to pack it in order to change their rulings, the supreme court is worthless and shoudl be abolished

which would mean the federal government is worthless and should be abolished.....a self fulfilling prophecy. imagine that.
 
my question would be, why would it NOT be in your best interests to have military weaponry to keep your freedom?

Maybe it's just me but i don't want my next door neighbour cluttering up the street with his tank and his wife's APC runabout.

The kind of people who want a bloody missile in their back yards are not people i want to encourage thanks very much.

Like i say, good luck with persuading the population that you've got a good idea there.
 
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