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Maybe it's just me but i don't want my next door neighbour cluttering up the street with his tank and his wife's APC runabout.

The kind of people who want a bloody missile in their back yards are not people i want to encourage thanks very much.

Like i say, good luck with persuading the population that you've got a good idea there.

then lets simply base it on the best military weaponry there is, the simple automatic rifle. I say this because tanks and missiles are general all purpose denial of area weapons and not designed for use by a single marine.

do you not think it in your best interest of remaining a free people to own and know how to use a machine gun?
 
Maybe it's just me but i don't want my next door neighbour cluttering up the street with his tank and his wife's APC runabout.

The kind of people who want a bloody missile in their back yards are not people i want to encourage thanks very much.

Like i say, good luck with persuading the population that you've got a good idea there.

Just one missle with MRV warheads?
I could put a cell antenna on the top of it?
 
Didn't the Supreme Court say slavery was legal at one point? Here's a news flash for you: now it isn't.



In spite of extensive recent discussion and much legislative action with respect to regulation of the purchase, possession, and transportation of firearms, as well as proposals to substantially curtail ownership of firearms, there is no definitive resolution by the courts of just what right the Second Amendment protects.

http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/data/constitution/amendment02/

perhaps you could link me to such cases...and as i said, if you actually read the heller case you would see that it will be nearly impossible to overturn it...i really don't care about that wuss article from findlaw....why don't YOU read the case and get back to me....

your desire though is simply to pack the court and change the ruling because obama appointed the judges...that has nothing to do with times changing or other laws changing. you solely want to change the ruling because obama will pick new judges who will reverse the ruling simply because of political leanings...

you make a sham of the judicial and political system
 
then lets simply base it on the best military weaponry there is, the simple automatic rifle. I say this because tanks and missiles are general all purpose denial of area weapons and not designed for use by a single marine.

do you not think it in your best interest of remaining a free people to own and know how to use a machine gun?

No, i don't.

We are never going to agree on this point. As i've said before i have no problem with people in other country's deciding that's how they want to live but i want nothing of the sort where i choose to live and neither does anyone else here (barring a few odd bods).
 
I don't need to prove anything to you. We the People voted for CHANGE, we won and we will get it.
 
I don't need to prove anything to you. We the People voted for CHANGE, we won and we will get it.

voting for change should have nothing to do with changing supreme court precedence :pke:

you're advocating only a two branch government with the executive government having 2/3 of the power....i would be careful about what you wish for as has happened often enough....the political pendulum will swing the other way and you will be wimpering in your dark little corner
 
No, i don't.

We are never going to agree on this point. As i've said before i have no problem with people in other country's deciding that's how they want to live but i want nothing of the sort where i choose to live and neither does anyone else here (barring a few odd bods).

can you explain WHY you feel that way and WHY you have a 180 degree difference in what the framers of the constitution wrote?
 
America is a sociopathic nation. The man who murders his children because his wife's leaving him has no conscience.

The man who whines that Obama will take his guns away, which in his case sounds okay to me, sociopathically voices his protest by killing three police officers.

The US has more guns and more gun crime than any other country on earth. More guns does not mean less crime and everyone knows the since a lot of states have such weak gun control a lot of the DC guns come from outside DC.

Between 1990 and 2006, the NRA organization doled out $16 million in campaign contributions,83 percent to Republicans. The NRA's millions also go for campaign television and billboard advertising. Big lobby for guns, guns, guns, any kind of guns and anything you want to do with 'em.

For example, the "Assault Weapons Ban" (why would anyone want to defend the right to own an ASSAULT weapon?) passed in 1994 under Clinton and expired in 2004 under Bush. This bill banned the manufacture, possession, and importation of semiautomatic assault weapons for civilian use. The majority of Democrats voted for it, and the majority of Republicans voted against it.

While most countries require the registration of firearms and permit handgun ownership, many ban certain kinds of weapons. BUT the US tops the rate of gun ownership and there is a correspondingly high gun homicide rate.

The solution is national bans on handguns and assault weapons.

Del. Eleanor Holmes Norton (D-DC) isn't missing the opportunity, with the recent news of a number of mass shootings, to push back against a gun amendment attached to the D.C. vote legislation.

Norton offered condolences to the families of the victims this weekend, including three police officers fatally shot Saturday and 13 shot to death Friday.

"In only the 25 days between March 10 and April 5, 53 people have been killed in mass murders by gunmen," a statement from her office said.

"The bill would eliminate all local gun laws, making the city, including official Washington, more open to gun violence than any of the jurisdictions where the mass killings have occurred in March and April," according to the statement.
 
I don't believe that the second amendment protects the right of individual people to own and carry guns, I believe it protects the "right" of the states to form militias.
 
I don't believe that the second amendment protects the right of individual people to own and carry guns, I believe it protects the "right" of the states to form militias.

can you show me a single court case before the 1900s to prove your point? Because I can show you a part of the constitution that forbids the states from maintaining its own troops.
 
can you explain WHY you feel that way and WHY you have a 180 degree difference in what the framers of the constitution wrote?

I'm not bothered about what the framers of the constitution wrote because it's not my constitution.

I don't want people owning automatic weapons because currently, people don't own automatic weapons or any other firearms (barring shotguns in some cases) and that, from my point of view, is a good thing. Primarily, i don't want to get shot. I don't want others to get shot. Not having machine guns everywhere sounds like a good way to reduce that threat to me.

You don't really have that option as you're awash with guns of all shapes and sizes.
 
voting for change should have nothing to do with changing supreme court precedence :pke:

you're advocating only a two branch government with the executive government having 2/3 of the power....i would be careful about what you wish for as has happened often enough....the political pendulum will swing the other way and you will be wimpering in your dark little corner

well....

or are you going to do nothing but rant about nonsensical issues that have nothing to do with this topic...

if you hate america, why do you stay?
 
I don't believe that the second amendment protects the right of individual people to own and carry guns, I believe it protects the "right" of the states to form militias.

The Bill of Rights was not about federal or state's rights. It was about the rights of the people.

And the ability to form militias (not military armies) was about forming groups of armed civilians. "Plowshares into swords" and all that.
 
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