The absence of evidence does not constitute evidence. This is more than just American stupidity now, it's become a lust for war for no apparent reason.
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How Will America Get it's War on Syria? Or Will War be Avoided? A Poll.
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The absence of evidence does not constitute evidence. This is more than just American stupidity now, it's become a lust for war for no apparent reason.
There is nothing I hate more than war. It turns men into monsters .. and women and children into statistics.
Why is America so in love with war?
Answer: for the money
I have to say in defence of Desh that it's an emotional thing and her feelings are quite honest. In her mind it's not supporting war for economic reasons. But political reasons has become her motivation to accept any trumped up evidence with strong emotion.
blackascoal
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Both sides are probably guilty of executions of the other side's. It's just as disingenuous to post this as evidence as it is to post executions carried out by Assad's side. This isn't evidence for or against war.
And in fact the US is guilty of summary executions of it's enemies and we have video footage to prove it.
It's evidence of atrocities by both sides and evidence that Obama's Al Qaeda warriors are just as guilty of atrocities as what is claimed Assad is doing .. AND, it's evidence of where US tax dollars are going .. and unless I miss my bet, US taxpayers are not funding Assad.
blackascoal
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I have to say in defence of Desh that it's an emotional thing and her feelings are quite honest. In her mind it's not supporting war for economic reasons. But political reasons has become her motivation to accept any trumped up evidence with strong emotion.
I don't disagree with that. I like Desh a lot.
But her emotional ties to the Obama Administration cannot stand in the way of truth.
Outside of this issue, I agree with Desh about 90% of the time.
It's evidence of atrocities by both sides and evidence that Obama's Al Qaeda warriors are just as guilty of atrocities as what is claimed Assad is doing .. AND, it's evidence of where US tax dollars are going .. and unless I miss my bet, US taxpayers are not funding Assad.
Try to maintain a level of honesty and you will be able to continue to expect that of others too. The Al Quaida fighters are not Obama's. If you must make it a thing about Obama then only try to destroy his credibility on issues which have some degree of honesty attached.
On the other hand, I'm pleased that you have compromised your little façade of always taking the high road.
if the powers that be want war, then we will have war. if the powers that be do not war, then we will not have war. it's that simple.
blackascoal
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Try to maintain a level of honesty and you will be able to continue to expect that of others too. The Al Quaida fighters are not Obama's. If you must make it a thing about Obama then only try to destroy his credibility on issues which have some degree of honesty attached.
On the other hand, I'm pleased that you have compromised your little façade of always taking the high road.
WHAT?
Who is supporting and training Al Qaeda in Syria? George Bush or Barack Obama?
You can call them whatever you like, I'll call them Obama's posse. Is that alright with you?
Grow up dude.
The absence of evidence does not constitute evidence. This is more than just American stupidity now, it's become a lust for war for no apparent reason.
Thanks Donald Rumsfeld, but please keep in mind that I offer that simply as a rejection of Del Ponte's claims that you continue to repeat despite the fact that her colleagues on the commission have rejected them.
sure DH, trying to show the UN isn't really able to say whom "did it" -just that the agents ( chems) are there.
The UN has no mandate to assign culpability for the use of chemcial weapons so the fact that it isn't saying whom is responsible isn't evidence of anything other than the UN's limited mandate.
I still tend towards Maher al-Assad, but the intel is never going to say for sure.
I have said repeatedly that there will be no independent arbiter of whom carried out the attack. Even if the intel showed without a shadow of a doubt that the regime is responsible, Assad and Russia will deny it.
WHAT?
Who is supporting and training Al Qaeda in Syria? George Bush or Barack Obama?
You can call them whatever you like, I'll call them Obama's posse. Is that alright with you?
Grow up dude.
The CanadianKid was always lacking in the smarts department....
blackascoal
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The CanadianKid was always lacking in the smarts department....
It appears that you can add 'self-esteem' to that list of what's lacking.
Thanks Donald Rumsfeld, but please keep in mind that I offer that simply as a rejection of Del Ponte's claims that you continue to repeat despite the fact that her colleagues on the commission have rejected them.
Yeah...Rummy often pointed out that
There are known knowns. These are things we know that we know. There are known unknowns. That is to say, there are things that we know we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we don't know we don't know.
Smarter than the combined brains of all the lefties on this board
blackascoal
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The UN has no mandate to assign culpability for the use of chemcial weapons so the fact that it isn't saying whom is responsible isn't evidence of anything other than the UN's limited mandate.
I have said repeatedly that there will be no independent arbiter of whom carried out the attack. Even if the intel showed without a shadow of a doubt that the regime is responsible, Assad and Russia will deny it.
On other words, the US has no authority, legal, moral, or otherwise, to attack Syria.
That's exactly what I've been saying all along.
10-4Dungheap;1316479 [QUOTE said:The UN has no mandate to assign culpability for the use of chemcial weapons so the fact that it isn't saying whom is responsible isn't evidence of anything other than the UN's limited mandate.
at this point not even the US has anything to gain by beating that dead horse-I have said repeatedly that there will be no independent arbiter of whom carried out the attack. Even if the intel showed without a shadow of a doubt that the regime is responsible, Assad and Russia will deny it.
reprisalls are only going to make the situation more volitile
Not arming up the FSA/Sunni's is another better idea, but US still clings to it.
The UN has no mandate to assign culpability for the use of chemcial weapons so the fact that it isn't saying whom is responsible isn't evidence of anything other than the UN's limited mandate.
I have said repeatedly that there will be no independent arbiter of whom carried out the attack. Even if the intel showed without a shadow of a doubt that the regime is responsible, Assad and Russia will deny it.
You lying American piece of shit. The UN certainly is mandated to reveal the source of the chemical weapon use.
It appears that you can add 'self-esteem' to that list of what's lacking.
Smarting a little from the slap on the face I gave you a while ago?
Dungheap;1316479 10-4 at this point not even the US has anything to gain by beating that dead horse- reprisalls are only going to make the situation more volitile Not arming up the FSA/Sunni's is another better idea said:And equally so the US will deny any evidence that the terrorists were responsible. And lo and behold, have already with the refusal to accept the possibility that Del Ponte was right. Inconvenient details that are of no importance in the US rush to another war.
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Smarting a little from the slap on the face I gave you a while ago?
You have serious issues dude. If you think I give a rats ass about that creepy shit, you're much dumber than you appear to be.
You have serious self-esteem issues. You whined like a pussy about how "trashy" this board is, yet you're still here.
I say thanks to you in a post and you think I want take you out on a date. Are you gay? Not that I think anything negative about gay people .. I'm just not one of them. Sorry.
Seek help .. quickly.
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You lying American piece of shit. The UN certainly is mandated to reveal the source of the chemical weapon use.
No it isn't. That isn't within the scope of their investigation.
UN won't hurry report on sarin in Syria
The UN spokesman said, “The secretary-general made it clear that he had taken the decision to determine whether or not chemical weapons had been used and not who used them. That is in line with previous such investigations.”
http://www.finalcall.com/artman/publish/World_News_3/article_100759.shtml
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