How Will America Get it's War on Syria? Or Will War be Avoided? A Poll.
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No I don't. I only still question the evidence that says that Assad's regime used the gas. My best evidence so far from an impartial source is Carla del Ponte who was in the best positon to know the truth at least prior to the latest claimed attack.
And I have to find credibility in the claim that Assad would have known that the worst thing he could have done to further his cause was to use gas at the exact time when the UN would be in a position to reveal it. It just doesn't add up.
And the US evidence that has been presented and was presented last night in it's strongest format so far was only rhetoric that lacked proof from Obama.
I don't have to run from the facts on the ground even at this late date. The evidence for war doesn't exist. The rest of the world doesn't accept that it exists yet. The American people so far don't accept that it exists yet. You are the one who needs to run from the real facts. I think you know but I think you are too stubborn to change. I think that your comments which are mostly insults to others, tells us that you know you have taken the wrong side.
The best I can do is continue to point it out to you, regardless of how much you continue to try to insult me.
evince
Truthmatters
Member of Independent International Commission of Inquiry on the Syrian Arab Republic[edit source]
Since September 2012, Del Ponte has been a member of the Independent International Commission of Inquiry on the Syrian Arab Republic,[4] under the auspices of the UN High Commissioner for Human Rights.
In May 2013 she accused the Syrian rebels of using chemical weapons, a view diametrically opposed by the majority of Western government officials. She stated, "We still have to deepen our investigation, verify and confirm (the findings) through new witness testimony, but according to what we have established so far, it is at the moment opponents of the regime who are using sarin gas."[5]
NATO[edit source]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carla_...ission_of_Inquiry_on_the_Syrian_Arab_Republic
and NOW we have way more evidence that you CHOOSE to ignore
Since September 2012, Del Ponte has been a member of the Independent International Commission of Inquiry on the Syrian Arab Republic,[4] under the auspices of the UN High Commissioner for Human Rights.
In May 2013 she accused the Syrian rebels of using chemical weapons, a view diametrically opposed by the majority of Western government officials. She stated, "We still have to deepen our investigation, verify and confirm (the findings) through new witness testimony, but according to what we have established so far, it is at the moment opponents of the regime who are using sarin gas."[5]
NATO[edit source]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carla_...ission_of_Inquiry_on_the_Syrian_Arab_Republic
and NOW we have way more evidence that you CHOOSE to ignore
And here's Del Ponte in person accusing the terrorists of the use of gas.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-22425058
The person who should have known the truth as well or better than anyone. This kind of statement can't be counterspun by the US. Del Ponte has much more credibility, yet some Americans insist on believing their own thoroughly discredited propagandists in their rush to war.
Why would you offer this as evidence evince? Were you having a moment of honesty or have you now changed sides?
I wish people would stop peddling this horseshit. The Commission of which she is a member stated that there is no compelling evidence that the rebels possess, let alone used, chemical weapons.
Here's what the commission of which Del Ponte is a member condluded on July 18, 2013 a month and a half after Del Ponte said :
http://daccess-dds-ny.un.org/doc/UNDOC/GEN/G13/156/20/PDF/G1315620.pdf?OpenElement
http://daccess-dds-ny.un.org/doc/UNDOC/GEN/G13/156/20/PDF/G1315620.pdf?OpenElement
blackascoal
The Force is With Me
Guess who has on the bloody shoes?
Answer: YOUR employee .. paid with YOUR tax dollars.
Witness to a Syrian Execution: “I Saw a Scene of Utter Cruelty"
excerpt
What follows is a harrowing series of photographs of Islamic militants publicly executing, by decapitation, a young Syrian in the town of Keferghan, near Aleppo, on August 31, 2013.
Because of the danger in reporting inside Syria, it was not possible to confirm the identity or political affiliation of the victim. Nor are we certain about the motivation of his killers. One eyewitness who lives in the area and was contacted by TIME a week after the beheadings said that the executioners were from ISIS, an Al-Qaeda franchise operating in Syria and Iraq.
TIME obtained the images exclusively from a photographer who was recently in Syria. This decapitation was the last of four executions he documented that day. TIME has agreed not to publish the photographer’s name, to protect him from repercussions when he returns to Syria. What follows is an edited account of his experience:
http://lightbox.time.com/2013/09/12...i-saw-a-scene-of-utter-cruelty/#ixzz2eiGNY9kp
The pictures and the video are too gruesome and graphic to post ... you can view them at the link.
But they may give you nightmares.
Answer: YOUR employee .. paid with YOUR tax dollars.
Witness to a Syrian Execution: “I Saw a Scene of Utter Cruelty"
excerpt
What follows is a harrowing series of photographs of Islamic militants publicly executing, by decapitation, a young Syrian in the town of Keferghan, near Aleppo, on August 31, 2013.
Because of the danger in reporting inside Syria, it was not possible to confirm the identity or political affiliation of the victim. Nor are we certain about the motivation of his killers. One eyewitness who lives in the area and was contacted by TIME a week after the beheadings said that the executioners were from ISIS, an Al-Qaeda franchise operating in Syria and Iraq.
TIME obtained the images exclusively from a photographer who was recently in Syria. This decapitation was the last of four executions he documented that day. TIME has agreed not to publish the photographer’s name, to protect him from repercussions when he returns to Syria. What follows is an edited account of his experience:
http://lightbox.time.com/2013/09/12...i-saw-a-scene-of-utter-cruelty/#ixzz2eiGNY9kp
The pictures and the video are too gruesome and graphic to post ... you can view them at the link.
But they may give you nightmares.
Guess who has on the bloody shoes?
Answer: YOUR employee .. paid with YOUR tax dollars.
Witness to a Syrian Execution: “I Saw a Scene of Utter Cruelty"
excerpt
What follows is a harrowing series of photographs of Islamic militants publicly executing, by decapitation, a young Syrian in the town of Keferghan, near Aleppo, on August 31, 2013.
Because of the danger in reporting inside Syria, it was not possible to confirm the identity or political affiliation of the victim. Nor are we certain about the motivation of his killers. One eyewitness who lives in the area and was contacted by TIME a week after the beheadings said that the executioners were from ISIS, an Al-Qaeda franchise operating in Syria and Iraq.
TIME obtained the images exclusively from a photographer who was recently in Syria. This decapitation was the last of four executions he documented that day. TIME has agreed not to publish the photographer’s name, to protect him from repercussions when he returns to Syria. What follows is an edited account of his experience:
http://lightbox.time.com/2013/09/12...i-saw-a-scene-of-utter-cruelty/#ixzz2eiGNY9kp
The pictures and the video are too gruesome and graphic to post ... you can view them at the link.
But they may give you nightmares.
I hate wars, my heart cries for his family
sure DH, trying to show the UN isn't really able to say whom "did it" -just that the agents ( chems) are there.
I still tend towards Maher al-Assad, but the intel is never going to say for sure.
blackascoal
The Force is With Me
There is nothing I hate more than war. It turns men into monsters .. and women and children into statistics.
Why is America so in love with war?
Answer: for the money
I've posted a video of Carla Del Ponte so what else do I need to do. I don't even have to add in any socalled bullshit.
Guess who has on the bloody shoes?
Answer: YOUR employee .. paid with YOUR tax dollars.
Witness to a Syrian Execution: “I Saw a Scene of Utter Cruelty"
excerpt
What follows is a harrowing series of photographs of Islamic militants publicly executing, by decapitation, a young Syrian in the town of Keferghan, near Aleppo, on August 31, 2013.
Because of the danger in reporting inside Syria, it was not possible to confirm the identity or political affiliation of the victim. Nor are we certain about the motivation of his killers. One eyewitness who lives in the area and was contacted by TIME a week after the beheadings said that the executioners were from ISIS, an Al-Qaeda franchise operating in Syria and Iraq.
TIME obtained the images exclusively from a photographer who was recently in Syria. This decapitation was the last of four executions he documented that day. TIME has agreed not to publish the photographer’s name, to protect him from repercussions when he returns to Syria. What follows is an edited account of his experience:
http://lightbox.time.com/2013/09/12...i-saw-a-scene-of-utter-cruelty/#ixzz2eiGNY9kp
The pictures and the video are too gruesome and graphic to post ... you can view them at the link.
But they may give you nightmares.
Both sides are probably guilty of executions of the other side's. It's just as disingenuous to post this as evidence as it is to post executions carried out by Assad's side. This isn't evidence for or against war.
And in fact the US is guilty of summary executions of it's enemies and we have video footage to prove it.
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