Gun Nut KILLS Daughter

USFREEDOM911 said:
You keep saying this; but you still haven't shown how you intend to:
1 - verify that it wasn't your daughter
2 - where each person who has access to your house was
3 - check the beds for those you knew were home

When you have someone approaching you in the dark.
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Actually I did. Re-read and use your brain at the same time. If I am grabbing my gun in my house, before I would shoot anybody I would either know that everybody I loved was not in the line of fire, or I would not shoot until I was sure that the person "approaching me in the dark" was not one of them. Any other action is taking unnecessary risk with your family. The most likely people to enter your house, even at night, are people who live there. Even if you think they are "supposed to be in North Carolina"...

The reality is, she didn't follow the first step in home defense, make sure you know where your loved ones are. Otherwise your chances of shooting one of your loved ones is very close to 100%.
 
Damocles said:
Actually I did. Re-read and use your brain at the same time. If I am grabbing my gun in my house, before I would shoot anybody I would either know that everybody I loved was not in the line of fire, or I would not shoot until I was sure that the person "approaching me in the dark" was not one of them. Any other action is taking unnecessary risk with your family. The most likely people to enter your house, even at night, are people who live there. Even if you think they are "supposed to be in North Carolina"...

The reality is, she didn't follow the first step in home defense, make sure you know where your loved ones are. Otherwise your chances of shooting one of your loved ones is very close to 100%.
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Once again, you keep saying:
1 - I would either know that everybody I loved was not in the line of fire
2 - that the person "approaching me in the dark" was not one of them
3 - I was sure that the person "approaching me in the dark" was not one of them

Without showing how you would do this, while someone is approaching you in the dark.

Are you deliberately being obtuse in providing this or have you realized that your desire to do so, is probably next to impossible?
 
USFREEDOM911 said:
Once again, you keep saying:
1 - I would either know that everybody I loved was not in the line of fire
2 - that the person "approaching me in the dark" was not one of them
3 - I was sure that the person "approaching me in the dark" was not one of them

Without showing how you would do this, while someone is approaching you in the dark.

Are you deliberately being obtuse in providing this or have you realized that your desire to do so, is probably next to impossible?
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I asked you to read the previous posts. I told you exactly how I would ensure it was not my daughter that I believed was outside the house.

So. I'll type slowly for the one being "deliberately obtuse"...
All three of your "points" is the same. So 1.2.3. I would not shoot until I was sure it was not one of my family.

This isn't hard, USF. Shooting people in your house indiscriminately because the lights are out is stupid.

Anyway. You go right ahead and believe you should shoot people in your house without knowing where your family is. I, for one, will not.
 
Damocles said:
I would suggest finding out where the people who live in your house are before you start shooting. It really is simple. If I have to grab a gun in my house at night the first thing I do is put eyes on each member of the family and make sure I know they are not in front of me. Anybody else in the house is fair game.
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I agree.
 
My parents have guns in their house and they had them my entire childhood growing up. I knew based off what my dad would say about protecting us if there was ever an intruder in or around the house and also how we were all taught how to handle and shoot guns so that any one of us in that house would be able to defend ourselves if something bad were to happen and we were alone. It's also because of those facts that I never snuck out of the house in the middle of the night when I was in high school and how even now if I drive home for the weekend to visit from school I always call ahead especially if I am arriving late at night. Sneaking into a house where you know that someone there will be armed is never a good idea. Actually sneaking into any house is a bad idea. I will say though that I was taught that if I can see their face and I dont know who the person is and they are inside the house then defend myself, but if it's dark and you can't see their face then we were supposed to yell at them to put their hands up and identify themselves and if they didnt do it within a couple of seconds then shoot. In this case the person should have atleast yelled out to the daughter to raise her hands or to identify herself. If you have the gun pointed at them then taking that extra second or two to try to make them surrender still leaves you with the advantage in most cases.
 
Norah said:
My parents have guns in their house and they had them my entire childhood growing up. I knew based off what my dad would say about protecting us if there was ever an intruder in or around the house and also how we were all taught how to handle and shoot guns so that any one of us in that house would be able to defend ourselves if something bad were to happen and we were alone. It's also because of those facts that I never snuck out of the house in the middle of the night when I was in high school and how even now if I drive home for the weekend to visit from school I always call ahead especially if I am arriving late at night. Sneaking into a house where you know that someone there will be armed is never a good idea. Actually sneaking into any house is a bad idea. I will say though that I was taught that if I can see their face and I dont know who the person is and they are inside the house then defend myself, but if it's dark and you can't see their face then we were supposed to yell at them to put their hands up and identify themselves and if they didnt do it within a couple of seconds then shoot. In this case the person should have atleast yelled out to the daughter to raise her hands or to identify herself. If you have the gun pointed at them then taking that extra second or two to try to make them surrender still leaves you with the advantage in most cases.
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Ever shot a person sweetheart?
 
Norah said:
My parents have guns in their house and they had them my entire childhood growing up. I knew based off what my dad would say about protecting us if there was ever an intruder in or around the house and also how we were all taught how to handle and shoot guns so that any one of us in that house would be able to defend ourselves if something bad were to happen and we were alone. It's also because of those facts that I never snuck out of the house in the middle of the night when I was in high school and how even now if I drive home for the weekend to visit from school I always call ahead especially if I am arriving late at night. Sneaking into a house where you know that someone there will be armed is never a good idea. Actually sneaking into any house is a bad idea. I will say though that I was taught that if I can see their face and I dont know who the person is and they are inside the house then defend myself, but if it's dark and you can't see their face then we were supposed to yell at them to put their hands up and identify themselves and if they didnt do it within a couple of seconds then shoot. In this case the person should have atleast yelled out to the daughter to raise her hands or to identify herself. If you have the gun pointed at them then taking that extra second or two to try to make them surrender still leaves you with the advantage in most cases.
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Common sense...
 
Damocles said:
I asked you to read the previous posts. I told you exactly how I would ensure it was not my daughter that I believed was outside the house.

So. I'll type slowly for the one being "deliberately obtuse"...
All three of your "points" is the same. So 1.2.3. I would not shoot until I was sure it was not one of my family.

This isn't hard, USF. Shooting people in your house indiscriminately because the lights are out is stupid.

Anyway. You go right ahead and believe you should shoot people in your house without knowing where your family is. I, for one, will not.
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You appear to be hiding the individual circumstances, by continually posting vague plans without showing how you intend to carry your plan out; therefor I will focus on the first part.

You said:
Damocles said:
...In this case, I would call my eldest (the adopted one is in the military) to ensure I knew where she was before I started shooting...
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And I asked you how you were intending to do this, with someone approaching you in the dark.

I'll move on to your other "plans", after this one is settled.
 
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USFREEDOM911 said:
You appear to be hiding the individual circumstances, by continually posting vague plans without showing how you intend to carry your plan out; therefor I will focus on the first part.

You said:


And I asked you how you were intending to do this, with someone approaching you in the dark.

I'll move on to your other "plans", after this one is settled.
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Keep shooting in the dark lady... What could go wrong?...Lol
 
Buckly J. Ewer said:
Even the knee jerk dickless gun nut agrees that USFREEDUMB is insane to go shooting at shadows inside her own house...Lol
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Nine of knows what really happened in that house. It is a tragedy yet you lefties have the human emotion of a bird and only see it as an opportunity to push your anti gun agenda.
 
USFREEDOM911 said:
You appear to be hiding the individual circumstances, by continually posting vague plans without showing how you intend to carry your plan out; therefor I will focus on the first part.

You said:


And I asked you how you were intending to do this, with someone approaching you in the dark.

I'll move on to your other "plans", after this one is settled.
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And again, I answered it. Let me do it again. Ask. My daughters know to answer me if I ask, "Who's there?" and why.

The reality is you are simply being absurd because you don't want this woman to have been wrong. She shot her daughter, there is nothing right in it. Do you believe you should shoot everybody who approaches you in the dark in your house without knowing if they are a threat or your family?

Do not be the guy who wants to pretend that she had no other option than to shoot her daughter who came home earlier than expected. That's just stupid.
 
Damocles said:
And again, I answered it. Let me do it again. Ask. My daughters know to answer me if I ask, "Who's there?" and why.

The reality is you are simply being absurd because you don't want this woman to have been wrong. She shot her daughter, there is nothing right in it. Do you believe you should shoot everybody who approaches you in the dark in your house without knowing if they are a threat or your family?

Do not be the guy who wants to pretend that she had no other option than to shoot her daughter who came home earlier than expected. That's just stupid.
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Again, common sense.
 
Damocles said:
And again, I answered it. Let me do it again. Ask. My daughters know to answer me if I ask, "Who's there?" and why.

The reality is you are simply being absurd because you don't want this woman to have been wrong. She shot her daughter, there is nothing right in it. Do you believe you should shoot everybody who approaches you in the dark in your house without knowing if they are a threat or your family?

Do not be the guy who wants to pretend that she had no other option than to shoot her daughter who came home earlier than expected. That's just stupid.
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But this has to do with you saying you would call the person who was supposed to be elsewhere!!
With a person approaching you, how are you going to call someone?

I've never posted anything that shows support for her actions; but I have been asking you to explain how you would do it differently and when I try to get you to be specific, you only use spin.
 
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