Dems hit 1st night out of the park

are you confused? wikileaks is leaking a bunch of stuff about hillary. This is a direct result of her unsecure server.

It is? It's the DNC that got hacked by Putin's team, not the Hildebeast's private e-mail server. Are you confused?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/russian-government-hackers-penetrated-dnc-stole-opposition-research-on-trump/2016/06/14/cf006cb4-316e-11e6-8ff7-7b6c1998b7a0_story.html
 
I have to say I disagree, I know you guys are tired of my disagreeing with you, but I can't not say it.

The democratic base has a bulwark against tea party like movements. NO one can win the democratic primary without the minority vote, and especially without the black vote. This is why Bernie didn't win.

Now, I do believe the party has moved to the left, but that happened without Bernie. Bernie capitalized on that IMO, he did not cause it. I often even wonder if Warren feels her work was appropriated by him. And let's put aside wall street for a minute, where exactly did the party move left? I believe that AA's are a big part of that move. They moved the party to the left on criminal justice, on drug sentencing, on racial disparities in sentencing.

I just disagree with anyone who believes the future of the Democratic party is with white people. I'm sorry, it's not. This doesn't mean white people aren't important, in fact, single white women are actually a big part of the Obama coalition, but the future of the party isn't white. I personally feel this feel the bern thing was our own last gasp of angry white men. Sure there were some women, there are some on the angry right too! But it's mainly the last gasp of white male hegemony. White men don't elect our nominees anymore, they don't. They never will again.

By your usage of the "minority vote", did that include the "Taco Bowl voters"??
 
Just the last thing I'll say on this thread is that Hillary was never the radical Angela Davis leftist the right wing and the sexist media made her out to be in the 90's. She was never the right wing Bush clone the left wing and the sexist media made her out to be during the 2000's.

She is more honest than most politicians, and studies show this, this is factual, but she lies sometimes. She is not a monster. She is not perfect. She is not a murderer. She is not a traitor. She does care about children and really has worked on their behalf her entire life. She is the strongest champion for women we will have ever had in the white house. She will make mistakes. Most of them like her server will be made during an over defensive effort to protect herself from Judicial Watch, the right wing, and the sexist media. Some will be self serving, most won't.

I proudly support her and my dearest wish is that she wins. If she doesn't, I will not be broken, I will simply regroup and support Booker in 2020 because I believe he would be our nominee and make Trump a one term president. Whatever damage Trump does via the supreme court, or his relationship with Putin, will be irreversible. But you go on from there.

Still, my money says the Obama coalition will hold the line. We will find out in November.

Does this mean you're finally going to STFU or are you lying again??
 
I love how the lefties are running with this Russia story as if it negates the substance of the emails. Even if Russia did jack it proves a) the democrat party is dirty and b) they don't know how to secure their shit

I guess it is news to the democrat party that people try to hack computers.

It's the leftist M/O where they try to claim facts presented in a situation aren't facts because the source is one they don't like.
 
Welp, he's not going to place Hillary's name into nomination tonight. So why not? In my view, Bernie always wants something for Bernie. I know this is not the widely held view of him, but when the books are written, I bet they prove me right.

Hillary placed Obama's name into nomination and asked for nothing in return. Today it was reported there was a negotiation. What did Bernie demand? Well whatever, he's not going to be doing it. And all I am doing is speculating right?

YEAH, that SOS position was just a fluke. :palm:
 
LOL

Guess you're new to google. I just typed in "Trump wears women's clothes" and got 2,040,000 results. Granted, not as many as the "boo" story, but that one is a bit more new.

USF - you're a hoot, man. Keep 'em coming. I need some levity after some of bravo's posts.

So first you say that you saw no news stories and then when you're shown that you just weren't interested to see them, you try to divert the attention away from your lack of knowledge. :good4u:

I challenge you to show how many of the stories you have alluded to, are from MSM; because I have this sneaky feelings that you won't like that it is MSM that is reporting this.

But in your thinking; whatever.
 
So first you say that you saw no news stories and then when you're shown that you just weren't interested to see them, you try to divert the attention away from your lack of knowledge. :good4u:

Nah - I'm just laughing at you for using the "google search results" lameness.

Even internet newbies don't try that anymore.
 
8:13 AM
Just the last thing I'll say on this thread...

8:14 AM
I really don't mind the young ones at all.

8:16 AM
You don't know these people. They aren't voting Democrat. I guess the one thing my years among them, among them Mott, I slept with them, I partied with them, I protested with them, I spent weeks away with them, I reported on them, I wrote about them...has given me is this. You can talk down to me and say what you want, but I know them. You don't. They aren't voting Democrat. They never have.

They never will.

8:28 AM
I feel like that was a racist, nativist movement that has always been there and always been strong in the R base. But the R base did the work and they came out for midterms and had a grass roots movement. Let's see the left do that. I haven't seen it yet. Still has to be proved.

8:30 AM
And no one will be happier than me if they do it btw! We would have a chance of getting congress back if the majority of the cry babies in the dem base actually voted in off year elections. I do. I always vote. Come on berners, prove me wrong!

10:29 AM
I believe I explained it as best I can.

As far as the TPP goes, that is Obama's deal and the Sanders people were never going to get an anti-TPP phrase into the platform. You don't do that to the President. When Hillary is elected I'll look at it again, it hasn't been a big issue for me.

10:30 AM
The black people I know have a real good laugh at that "economic anxiety" thing.

10:30 AM
I wish him luck.

10:34 AM
If my memory serves Nadar is such a pos that he actually went and campaigned in swing states like Florida. And to this day he and his supporters, whom I call the pitchfork left, or sometimes the Chavez left, defend that. So you just can't talk sense to these people IMO and in my experience. I really don't know what planet they live on.

11:06 AM
Welp, he's not going to place Hillary's name into nomination tonight. So why not? In my view, Bernie always wants something for Bernie. I know this is not the widely held view of him, but when the books are written, I bet they prove me right.

Hillary placed Obama's name into nomination and asked for nothing in return. Today it was reported there was a negotiation. What did Bernie demand? Well whatever, he's not going to be doing it. And all I am doing is speculating right?

Well, that sure didn't last long; but her paramour, before Rune, did say that "She lies about everything, great and small".
:good4u:
 
Nah - I'm just laughing at you for using the "google search results" lameness.

Even internet newbies don't try that anymore.

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

I love how you cherry picked my reply to you, in a pathetic attempt to cover your lame ass. :D

Let me repeat the part you "ignored".

I challenge you to show how many of the stories you have alluded to, are from MSM; because I have this sneaky feelings that you won't like that it is MSM that is reporting this.

But in your thinking; whatever.
 
I'm not sure with you, on Bernie being able to help Hillary; because it appears that Bernie's supporters feel betrayed and if he campaigns with Hillary, it may just rub the betrayal in their face.

Part of the Bernie movement was predicated on a rejection of establishment politics and the emails revealed the absolute worst side of it.

Betrayed is the right word.
 
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

I love how you cherry picked my reply to you, in a pathetic attempt to cover your lame ass. :D

Let me repeat the part you "ignored".

I challenge you to show how many of the stories you have alluded to, are from MSM; because I have this sneaky feelings that you won't like that it is MSM that is reporting this.

But in your thinking; whatever.

I don't buy that you're really laughing. I see your posts here & there, and you always seem pretty ticked. That was crazy what you did w/ Darla's posts above - that takes some time. Pretty obsessive.

Anyhoo, it is definitely kind of a "whatever" thing. Because I check the major news sites in the morning (even Fox), and the gargantuan "boo" story was either non-existent or a blip. All I hear out of posters like you & tsuke is "Please let it be a huge story," but sorry - it just ain't.
 
I don't buy that you're really laughing. I see your posts here & there, and you always seem pretty ticked. That was crazy what you did w/ Darla's posts above - that takes some time. Pretty obsessive.

Anyhoo, it is definitely kind of a "whatever" thing. Because I check the major news sites in the morning (even Fox), and the gargantuan "boo" story was either non-existent or a blip. All I hear out of posters like you & tsuke is "Please let it be a huge story," but sorry - it just ain't.

NO, I am truly laughing at you.
Why would I be ticked, just because you're an idiot.
Especially one who refused to take off your rose colored Hillary glasses. :D

Since you mentioned FOX News:

From 1 day ago:
Crowd Erupts, Boos Sanders for Telling Them to Vote for Hillary

From 23 hours ago
Dem officials jeered, booed at convention opening; DNC apologizes over emails

From 7 hours ago / video
Bernie backers begin DNC by booing Hillary supporters

Do you need more or have you had enough of your daily helping of crow?

But then, whatever.
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA
 
I don't buy that you're really laughing. I see your posts here & there, and you always seem pretty ticked. That was crazy what you did w/ Darla's posts above - that takes some time. Pretty obsessive.

Anyhoo, it is definitely kind of a "whatever" thing. Because I check the major news sites in the morning (even Fox), and the gargantuan "boo" story was either non-existent or a blip. All I hear out of posters like you & tsuke is "Please let it be a huge story," but sorry - it just ain't.

I actually think he's screaming.
 
Part of the Bernie movement was predicated on a rejection of establishment politics and the emails revealed the absolute worst side of it.

Betrayed is the right word.
Meh....Bernie has reveled and taken advantage of his status as an independent for years. Now when he decides to run for President he expects the party establishment to rally behind his cause and to play fair with him? Sorry but that's not how party politics work. Anyone who is surprised by this probably shouldn't be discussing politics.
 
We shall see but it does appear to be heading in that direction. Which, from a historical standpoint, is really ironic.

The GOP was the only place it could come from. The democratic establishment is just too strong. Plus they divided their base by race as well as income. As if a handful of rich black guys handling things would make a difference from a handful of rich white guys handling things. Which is partly why the bernie revolution failed.

We already saw this election that the entire democratic establishment lined up against bernie and cheated him out of everything but he still bows his head after. They are just too entrenched.

The GOP though has already been primed to put americans first and has an establishment that had difficulty dividing its base against itself.
 
NO, I am truly laughing at you.
Why would I be ticked, just because you're an idiot.
Especially one who refused to take off your rose colored Hillary glasses. :D

Since you mentioned FOX News:

From 1 day ago:
Crowd Erupts, Boos Sanders for Telling Them to Vote for Hillary

From 23 hours ago
Dem officials jeered, booed at convention opening; DNC apologizes over emails

From 7 hours ago / video
Bernie backers begin DNC by booing Hillary supporters

Do you need more or have you had enough of your daily helping of crow?

But then, whatever.
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

even the most liberal outlets like tyt are covering it lol.
 
A few short years ago, she wasn't at all proud of her country, suddenly now, its great.....shes just another goal-oriented liar.....a typical Democrat...

Lies. "For the first time in my adult lifetime, I am really proud of my country."

I wasn't at all proud of my country when bush invaded Iraq, and I'm not the only one.
 
The GOP was the only place it could come from. The democratic establishment is just too strong. Plus they divided their base by race as well as income. As if a handful of rich black guys handling things would make a difference from a handful of rich white guys handling things. Which is partly why the bernie revolution failed.

We already saw this election that the entire democratic establishment lined up against bernie and cheated him out of everything but he still bows his head after. They are just too entrenched.

The GOP though has already been primed to put americans first and has an establishment that had difficulty dividing its base against itself.

This is bull, too. If there were under 10 candidates in the GOP field, Trump wouldn't have won.
 
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