Tesla Model 3 named winner in KBB’s 5-Year Cost to Own Awards 2022. MAGA wets panties

Walt said:
I still remember when American car companies were demanding bailouts because they had not produced fuel efficient cars like the Japanese had. I do not want to have to bail them out, yet again.
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Yeah, I remember in the late 70s after the fuel crisis, everybody wanted fuel-efficient cars so they started buying Japanese and left US car companies in the dust. Because of that, many fanatics went ape-shit with criticism over Japanese cars just like they're doing now with EVs.

But the EV cat is out of the bag. Anybody who's considering an EV will do the research and be able to separate the facts from the bullshit. And they will see their neighbors buying, driving and loving their EVs. That's the best advertising right there.
I've owned my Tesla Model Y DMLR for a year and a half and you know how much I've spent on maintenance?

$0
 
Joe Capitalist said:
There's a reason why every major auto manufacturer is now selling EVs.
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Joe Capitalist said:
Nice try, LyinBitch. Do you really expect people to believe your bullshit?

Here's a clue. We don't. You just look silly with your pathetic responses.
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Err...
Mr. Wet Panties, are you aware of the automobile fuel mileage requirements imposed by Brandon? How do you think they will meet this average?
You are a very dense little prick trapped with a vehicle totally controlled by a guy you no longer like.

https://www.nbcnews.com/business/bu...ales-new-gasoline-powered-cars-2035-rcna44855
 
Lionfish said:
Err...
Mr. Wet Panties, are you aware of the automobile fuel mileage requirements imposed by Brandon? How do you think they will meet this average?
You are a very dense little prick trapped with a vehicle totally controlled by a guy you no longer like.

https://www.nbcnews.com/business/bu...ales-new-gasoline-powered-cars-2035-rcna44855
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More bullshit from LyinBitch. Do me a favor. Read this:
Electric Vehicle Sales Up by 333% YoY In the First Half of 2022

https://mercomindia.com/electric-vehicle-sales-up-1h-2022/
 
T. A. Gardner said:
https://jalopnik.com/advisor/tesla-...average car owner on yearly maintenance needs.

That's what having a shitty quality product gets you...
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This is from a FORD DEALERSHIP:

'WHAT MAINTENANCE IS NECESSARY FOR MY ELECTRIC VEHICLE?
Ford Mustang Mach-E on the Road
As aforementioned, very little is necessary. Simply due to the lack of a combustion engine. '

https://www.lafayetteford.com/what-a...-electric-car/


THIS IS FROM KIA'S U.S. WEBSITE:

'The simple answer is: Electric vehicles require considerably less maintenance than fuel-powered cars.'

https://www.kia.com/eu/about-kia/exp...ric-cars-need/


'As a rough estimate, electric vehicles have about 1/10th of the ongoing requirement for repair and replacement parts.'

https://seekingalpha.com/article/417...ail-auto-parts



True or False?

The average EV requires FAR, less maintenance than the average ICE?
 
McRocket said:
This is from a FORD DEALERSHIP:

'WHAT MAINTENANCE IS NECESSARY FOR MY ELECTRIC VEHICLE?
Ford Mustang Mach-E on the Road
As aforementioned, very little is necessary. Simply due to the lack of a combustion engine. '

https://www.lafayetteford.com/what-a...-electric-car/


THIS IS FROM KIA'S U.S. WEBSITE:

'The simple answer is: Electric vehicles require considerably less maintenance than fuel-powered cars.'

https://www.kia.com/eu/about-kia/exp...ric-cars-need/


'As a rough estimate, electric vehicles have about 1/10th of the ongoing requirement for repair and replacement parts.'

https://seekingalpha.com/article/417...ail-auto-parts



True or False?

The average EV requires FAR, less maintenance than the average ICE?
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True Joe Crapitalist's Electric wheelchair requires little maintenance.
 
Nobody is arguing over maintenance costs. Some of us aren't ready to have our transportation limited buy other people's whims. We prefer choices.
 
Lionfish said:
Nobody is arguing over maintenance costs.
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T. A. Gardner was arguing over maintenance costs.

https://www.justplainpolitics.com/s...-2022-MAGA-wets-panties&p=5270857#post5270857

And I am simply showing him that - like 'em or hate 'em - the average EV vehicle requires FAR, less maintenance than the average ICE (internal combustion engine) vehicle of similar size, weight and power.


Some of us aren't ready to have our transportation limited buy other people's whims. We prefer choices.
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I agree with that.
I think the government should stay the FUCK out of the ENTIRE auto market (as well as the ENTIRE economy).
I despised the fact that Tesla was given huge breaks by the Obama government.

And the tax breaks are ludicrous.
The average person that buys an EV is upper middle class to wealthy.
Thus, these EV tax breaks are tax breaks for the wealthy.

However?
I LOVE the performance of EV's.
The instant, throttle response.
I love the low maintenance.
The environmental part is fine - though that matters little to me.

But they are too expensive right now for most people.
However, I believe when and if GM can/will build a solid EV (like the Chevy Bolt) for $20K?
They will have a HUGE hit on their hands.
Without ANY silly, tax breaks.
 
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Lionfish said:
I have a number of complaints about EV's but the biggest is the control they have over you, Tesla being the most obvious. Pay attention to the new "smart meters" the local utilities are installing in large cities. Once you are lucky enough to have one of those, the state will no longer have the need to tell you not to charge your vehicle, they can dole out as much or as little as they see fit and if my memory serves me correctly, many electric motors do not run well on reduced voltage and damaging household motors that are designed to run on 120 or 240 volts can be frustrating and expensive.
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The so-called 'smart' meters do not control electricity. They only measure it. This is gaslighting.
 
ExpressLane said:
And all those EVs are powered by fossil fuels. Just like ICE powered cars are. ;)
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Nope. Fossils aren't used as fuel. Fossils don't burn.

EV's are charged by the use of fuels like coal, oil, or natural gas, or through the use of nuclear or hydroelectric power. Hence, the use of the image of rail cars loaded with coal Lionfish has been posting is rather accurate. These cars are not anywhere as 'clean' or 'green' as ecowackos make them out to be. Further, their manufacture requires the use of strip mining and large amounts of lithium and cobalt, both rather rare. The price of electric cars will only go higher as the availability of these materials can't meet demand. There is also, of course, the higher danger of fire, particularly when charging.

Solar power is the most expensive method of generating electricity there is. Wind comes in 2nd most expensive (watt for watt). They are piddle power. They won't produce enough to charge fleets of electric cars.

This kind of nonsense is already happening in the EU, where the price of electricity is insane. It will happen to the SDTC as well. In both cases, they dismantled their electric generating capacity while mandating EVs.

That's just fascism...and tyranny. It is already bringing misery to many people. Factories and businesses are already shutting down because they can't afford the energy costs in the EU. People are already trying to flee the SDTC.

Mandates like this are bullshit. It doesn't matter whether it's mandates for EVs or for ICE cars. Government has NO business telling people what they are allowed to buy and drive, and it has NO business taking money from one by force and giving it to another so they can buy an EV.
 
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Joe Capitalist said:
https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-model-3-wins-kbb-5-year-cost-to-own-awards/

Tesla Model 3 named as one of the winners in KBB’s 5-Year Cost to Own Awards for 2022


The Tesla Model 3 was recently deemed by Kelley Blue Book as one of the winners in its 5-Year Cost to Own Awards for 2022. KBB’s 5-Year Cost to Own Award explores the costs associated with the ownership of a vehicle. This includes the vehicle’s price, maintenance costs, fuel or charging rates, any state tax, and registration fees, as well as a car’s depreciation over a 5-year ownership period, among others.

As per the automotive research company, the 2022 Tesla Model 3 leads the “Electric Luxury Vehicle” segment with a 5-year cost to own of $48,233. According to Kelley Blue Book, the Model 3’s 5-year cost to own is $16,411 less than the segment average. This is quite impressive, especially considering that the Model 3 is Tesla’s entry-level vehicle today.

The fact that the Model 3 was dubbed by KBB as one of the winners in its 2022 5-Year Cost to Own Awards is quite unsurprising, especially if one were to consider that electric vehicles like Teslas do not need as much maintenance as their internal combustion engine-powered counterparts. And being part of Tesla’s ecosystem, the Model 3 enjoys a number of perks that some of its rivals in the “Electric Luxury Vehicle” segment do not enjoy as well, such as Supercharging rates, which are extremely convenient and affordable
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And they ask u not to charge it in California
 
Walt said:
There is this thing called the Channel. If you try to drive most cars through it, they will sink, and you will drown.

Then there is the Trans-Siberian Highway, which is at best iffy. You are not allowed to take cars between Russia and China, or between China and Hong Kong, so you would have to drive some sort of truck... Which is illegal unless you are a Chinese citizen. The Chinese do not respect foreign drivers licenses, unless you have a diplomatic passport, so you would need to stop at the Chinese border and get a Chinese drivers license.

I know in your fantasy, Americans can drive anywhere they want, always on the right hand side of the street... But the reality is very different. And that is just off the top of my head. I am sure if I thought about it more, I would come up with more problems.



There is only one land method to get from London to Hong Kong, and it is electric trains all the way.

As for a car, Russia has had 100% electrification as the goal for over a hundred years. They almost always have access to electricity. Gas stations are seen as problems, and there is no drive to make sure they are available.
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There is no electric train from London to Hong Kong.
The Channel is crossed by ferry, which uses fuel. If you use the Chunnel train, you use fuel to power the overhead lines that feed the train's motors. All other trains along the route are diesel or hydrogen powered, or using overhead electric lines fed by power plants powered by coal, natural gas, or nuclear power. Unfortunately, the cost of energy in Europe right now is making this journey more and more impractical.
 
Into the Night said:
There is no electric train from London to Hong Kong.
The Channel is crossed by ferry, which uses fuel. If you use the Chunnel train, you use fuel to power the overhead lines that feed the train's motors. All other trains along the route are diesel or hydrogen powered, or using overhead electric lines fed by power plants powered by coal, natural gas, or nuclear power. Unfortunately, the cost of energy in Europe right now is making this journey more and more impractical.
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When EVs are ubiquitous, the Chunnel Train won't be needed since EVs don't produce noxious fumes.
 
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