The pope is a lot of things,...... amazing isnt one of them. What does the Bible say about homosexuals btw?
Which of the commandments is it?? The first??Fourth??
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The pope is a lot of things,...... amazing isnt one of them. What does the Bible say about homosexuals btw?
I have always felt American conservatives culturally have more in common with the Taliban than with John Stuart Mill, David Thoreau, or others preeminent figures of western democracy and enlightenment.
It seems the conservatives have just lost the heart to ban gay marriage.
15 to 20 years ago, Republicans were scrambling to put gay marriage bans on state ballot initiatives. It was an existential issue for conservatives.
Which of the commandments is it?? The first??Fourth??
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Sodomy is in the UCMJ. In the early 1980s a Marine officer was being prosecuted for homosexuality under the Article 125:
Sodomy
(a) Any person subject to this chapter who engages in unnatural carnal copulation with another person of the same or opposite sex or with
an animal is guilty of sodomy. Penetration, however slight, is sufficient to complete the offense.
The charges were read then the defense lawyer made a statement like this "Any officer on this court-martial who has had unnatural carnal copulation with their wife or girlfriend should immediately recuse themselves from this case." The case was dropped. After that, homosexual Marines weren't prosecuted for homosexuality under the Sodomy article. Most were just shown the door with an Admin discharge.
"But when the Pharisees had heard that he had put the Sadducees to silence, they were gathered together. Then one of them, which was a lawyer, asked him a question, tempting him, and saying, Master, which is the great commandment in the law? Jesus said unto him, 'Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.'" -- Matthew 22: 34-40
He didn't word that very well. Sodomy means any non-vaginal sex.
Yep. Let me guess, you thought it was limited to gay sex, yes?
"But when the Pharisees had heard that he had put the Sadducees to silence, they were gathered together. Then one of them, which was a lawyer, asked him a question, tempting him, and saying, Master, which is the great commandment in the law? Jesus said unto him, 'Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.'" -- Matthew 22: 34-40

I've always found the sadducees to be extremely fascinating.
Fortunately, history has left you behind in the dust.
The liberal democracies of the world are increasingly extending equal civil rights to all citizens of all sexual orientations and preferences.
There is exactly zero percent chance reactionaries, Republicans, and theocrats will ever be able to roll it back.
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*NOT* especially "legally." Legally, it means any sex other than heterosexual intercourse. You haven't consulted any lawyers on the matter. Ask me how I know.No. The word generally means anal sex, especially legally.
*NOT* especially "legally." Legally, it means any sex other than heterosexual intercourse. You haven't consulted any lawyers on the matter. Ask me how I know.
I used to operate under your misunderstanding. Then I learned otherwise from a lawyer, and then I learned that practically every culture has a word equivalent to "sodomy" which carries the connotation of "unnatural sex" or "immoral sex" from which the word "sodomy" comes and moral, or lesson, which served as the basis for the Biblical story Sodom and Gomorrah, i.e. the society that allows degenerate sex will see itself destroyed. American sodomy laws were normally very vague so as to afford prosecutors full leeway in prosecuting those who riled the sensibilities of the community and homosexual men were often the targets of zealous prosecutors.
In July of this year, sodomy laws were used to put a Florida woman in jail for a "sex crime" without having to hold a separate trial in which children would be required to testify (again). I only mention this because sodomy is pretty much unenforceable now in the US but many states keep vague sodomy laws on the books as a tool in unusual cases.
You missed the point. Sodomy laws were not limited to homosexual acts. If you were aware of the laws then you know that fellatio is also sodomy.LOL. Misunderstanding. I am aware of the laws in the past that referred to homosexual acts. Alan Turing comes to mind.
No. The information was free. I did not incur a debt in the offering.And you'll have to give me a link for your last paragraph.
You missed the point. Sodomy laws were not limited to homosexual acts.
I know that. Jesus.No. The information was free. I did not incur a debt in the offering.
Quite clearly you didn't. You made two consecutive erroneous statements. I have corrected them for you and now you know.I know that. Jesus.
Nope. In other words, it's just not important enough to you to type a few keys.In other words, it's anecdotal.
Quite clearly you didn't. You made two consecutive erroneous statements. I have corrected them for you and now you know.
btw ... you could say "thank you."
I know that sodomy is not limited to homosexual sex.Nope. In other words, it's just not important enough to you to type a few keys.
Deplorables are heavily biased by their experience with white anglo Saxon Protestantism and their lack of knowledge of Christian history and theology.To be fair, RCC has quite a few stances that are in conflict with the Bible.