Same Sex Marriages

The pope is a lot of things,...... amazing isnt one of them. What does the Bible say about homosexuals btw?

Which of the commandments is it?? The first??Fourth??

This is God's top ten:

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I have always felt American conservatives culturally have more in common with the Taliban than with John Stuart Mill, David Thoreau, or others preeminent figures of western democracy and enlightenment.

It seems the conservatives have just lost the heart to ban gay marriage.

15 to 20 years ago, Republicans were scrambling to put gay marriage bans on state ballot initiatives. It was an existential issue for conservatives.

I suppose after years of their lips firmly planted on the Toadstool's backside, they've finally given up all pretense to morality, virtue, family values, Christianity, ethics... or defending our Constitution.
 
So much hate and so little time. Why are rightys so angry? Gays have zero impact on your lives, but you sure feel the need to get into theirs.
 
Which of the commandments is it?? The first??Fourth??

This is God's top ten:

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"But when the Pharisees had heard that he had put the Sadducees to silence, they were gathered together. Then one of them, which was a lawyer, asked him a question, tempting him, and saying, Master, which is the great commandment in the law? Jesus said unto him, 'Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.'" -- Matthew 22: 34-40
 
Sodomy is in the UCMJ. In the early 1980s a Marine officer was being prosecuted for homosexuality under the Article 125:
Sodomy
(a) Any person subject to this chapter who engages in unnatural carnal copulation with another person of the same or opposite sex or with
an animal is guilty of sodomy. Penetration, however slight, is sufficient to complete the offense.


The charges were read then the defense lawyer made a statement like this "Any officer on this court-martial who has had unnatural carnal copulation with their wife or girlfriend should immediately recuse themselves from this case." The case was dropped. After that, homosexual Marines weren't prosecuted for homosexuality under the Sodomy article. Most were just shown the door with an Admin discharge.

Obviously, since I have been in the service, we have seen the end of DADT, and LGB service members can be open.
 
"But when the Pharisees had heard that he had put the Sadducees to silence, they were gathered together. Then one of them, which was a lawyer, asked him a question, tempting him, and saying, Master, which is the great commandment in the law? Jesus said unto him, 'Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.'" -- Matthew 22: 34-40

I've always found the sadducees to be extremely fascinating.
 
"But when the Pharisees had heard that he had put the Sadducees to silence, they were gathered together. Then one of them, which was a lawyer, asked him a question, tempting him, and saying, Master, which is the great commandment in the law? Jesus said unto him, 'Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.'" -- Matthew 22: 34-40

AMEN!!!

The one thing rarely ever seen from the local self-proclaimed~LOVE, on which hangs all the law & the prophets:palm:
 
Fortunately, history has left you behind in the dust.

The liberal democracies of the world are increasingly extending equal civil rights to all citizens of all sexual orientations and preferences.

There is exactly zero percent chance reactionaries, Republicans, and theocrats will ever be able to roll it back.

Your human flesh will be left in the dust one day as well. Illogical to be a slave to what will be destroyed. Your relationship with God is eternal...one way or the other.
"Choose this day who you will serve" while you're still in the land of the living. :cool:
 
No. The word generally means anal sex, especially legally.
*NOT* especially "legally." Legally, it means any sex other than heterosexual intercourse. You haven't consulted any lawyers on the matter. Ask me how I know.

I used to operate under your misunderstanding. Then I learned otherwise from a lawyer, and then I learned that practically every culture has a word equivalent to "sodomy" which carries the connotation of "unnatural sex" or "immoral sex" from which the word "sodomy" comes and moral, or lesson, which served as the basis for the Biblical story Sodom and Gomorrah, i.e. the society that allows degenerate sex will see itself destroyed. American sodomy laws were normally very vague so as to afford prosecutors full leeway in prosecuting those who riled the sensibilities of the community and homosexual men were often the targets of zealous prosecutors.

In July of this year, sodomy laws were used to put a Florida woman in jail for a "sex crime" without having to hold a separate trial in which children would be required to testify (again). I only mention this because sodomy is pretty much unenforceable now in the US but many states keep vague sodomy laws on the books as a tool in unusual cases.
 
*NOT* especially "legally." Legally, it means any sex other than heterosexual intercourse. You haven't consulted any lawyers on the matter. Ask me how I know.

I used to operate under your misunderstanding. Then I learned otherwise from a lawyer, and then I learned that practically every culture has a word equivalent to "sodomy" which carries the connotation of "unnatural sex" or "immoral sex" from which the word "sodomy" comes and moral, or lesson, which served as the basis for the Biblical story Sodom and Gomorrah, i.e. the society that allows degenerate sex will see itself destroyed. American sodomy laws were normally very vague so as to afford prosecutors full leeway in prosecuting those who riled the sensibilities of the community and homosexual men were often the targets of zealous prosecutors.

In July of this year, sodomy laws were used to put a Florida woman in jail for a "sex crime" without having to hold a separate trial in which children would be required to testify (again). I only mention this because sodomy is pretty much unenforceable now in the US but many states keep vague sodomy laws on the books as a tool in unusual cases.

LOL. Misunderstanding. I am aware of the laws in the past that referred to homosexual acts. Alan Turing comes to mind.

And you'll have to give me a link for your last paragraph.
 
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But when the Pharisees had heard that he had put the Sadducees to silence, they were gathered together. Then ThatOwlCoward asked him a question, tempting him, and saying, "Master, which is the greatest commandment in the law? Jesus said unto her, 'Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. This is the first and great commandment." ThatOwlCoward responded "Wrong! Thou shalt love Climate as thyself and shall reject CO2 in all its forms!" Then she ordered Christ be declared a denier and crucified.

The DNC then paid her thirty pieces of silver and let her be a Biden staffer.

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LOL. Misunderstanding. I am aware of the laws in the past that referred to homosexual acts. Alan Turing comes to mind.
You missed the point. Sodomy laws were not limited to homosexual acts. If you were aware of the laws then you know that fellatio is also sodomy.

And you'll have to give me a link for your last paragraph.
No. The information was free. I did not incur a debt in the offering.
 
Quite clearly you didn't. You made two consecutive erroneous statements. I have corrected them for you and now you know.

btw ... you could say "thank you."

:palm: I know that sodomy is not limited to homosexual sex.

Nope. In other words, it's just not important enough to you to type a few keys.

Anecdotal examples are not worth time to discuss.
 
To be fair, RCC has quite a few stances that are in conflict with the Bible.
Deplorables are heavily biased by their experience with white anglo Saxon Protestantism and their lack of knowledge of Christian history and theology.

Protestantism is a minority Christian faith in the world.

Protestants, and Protestants uniquely, insist the bible is the sole authority on matters of theology.

Other faith traditions do not elevate the bible as the sole authority on matters of religion and faith. In the Catholic tradition, there is two thousand years of writings by the Church fathers, papal decrees, Vatican councils, ecclesiastical councils which establish accepted Christian theology and practice.
 
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