In America the voters are led to believe that they are free to choose their leaders

Cinnabar

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That false narrative has never been true. And, it is further from the truth today as it has ever been. In fact each and every candidate on the US presidential ballot every four years is put there by a primary process that is fastidiously controlled by the major moneyed interests. There are many rich and powerful interests out there; however, only a few have been deputized by the ruling cabal to play this game. They get to choose who will be and not be on the final ballot.

At the end of a very dramatic campaign season the nominees are then presented to the electorate for their consideration. How does that equate to the American people choosing their leaders when the nominees are chosen for them — ALWAYS and WITHOUT EXCEPTION.

What is the key point here?

The American people have consistently voted criminally insane psychopaths into office over several decades. The entire world community of nations has suffered greatly because of the many profound defects in American electoral process.

http://themillenniumreport.com/2015...nto-voting-for-criminally-insane-psychopaths/

And I posted this in the current events forum because it is so very relevant right now! The DNC would rather prop up a candidate who is obviously going senile and who is so in bed with the big banks and corporate interests just to maintain their cushy jobs, flow of money and positions of power.

I was in the mindset of "vote blue no matter who" but that is a big steaming pile of shit! The DNC prefers to lose with Biden than to win with a candidate who will actually bring the change the USA so desperately needs in order to rebuild a middle class, guarantee rights and salvage Democracy. Even if the DNC can pull this off with Biden, nothing will change and they are setting the table for the next Trump. It does not matter to the establishment on either side who the figurehead is or which party has the majority as they have all they really want and need and are royally screwing the people either way.

Caucases? Electoral College? Debates that resemble sporting events moderated by corporate puppets? Delegates? Super Duper Delegates? Super Tuesday? What next...Orgasmic Wednesday? C'mon, this is a bad joke and the laugh is on the tools who buy into it. If the USA was honest about the integrity of elections, they would be streamlined and organized with all states in sync with the process and PAPER BALLOTS and advancing the cause for voter education and turnout.

I'm done because I'm no one's tool or schmuck. Knock yourself out but I have interests and hobbies more worth pursuing than pretending this is okay. I will be sitting out this fraudulent excuse for an election process. I hope it gets better and truly democratic for the younger generation and I will continue to support all true Progressives and their agendas.
 
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And I posted this in the current events forum because it is so very relevant right now! The DNC would rather prop up a candidate who is obviously going senile and who is so in bed with the big banks and corporate interests just to maintain their cushy jobs, flow of money and positions of power.

I was in the mindset of "vote blue no matter who" but that is a big steaming pile of shit! The DNC prefers to lose with Biden than to win with a candidate who will actually bring the change the USA so desperately needs in order to rebuild a middle class, guarantee rights and salvage Democracy. Even if the DNC can pull this off with Biden, nothing will change and they are setting the table for the next Trump. It does not matter to the establishment on either side who the figurehead is or which party has the majority as they have all they really want and need and are royally screwing the people either way.

Caucasus? Electoral College? Debates that resemble sporting events moderated by corporate puppets? Delegates? Super Duper Delegates? Super Tuesday? What next...Orgasmic Wednesday? C'mon, this is a bad joke and the laugh is on the tools who buy into it. If the USA was honest about the integrity of elections, they would be streamlined and organized with all states in sync with the process and PAPER BALLOTS and advancing the cause for voter education and turnout.

I'm done because I'm no one's tool or schmuck. Knock yourself out but I have interests and hobbies more worth pursuing than pretending this is okay. I will be sitting out this fraudulent excuse for an election process. I hope it gets better and truly democratic for the younger generation and I will continue to support all true Progressives and their agendas.
Cutting off your nose to spite your face, my grandmother would say...
 
And I posted this in the current events forum because it is so very relevant right now! The DNC would rather prop up a candidate who is obviously going senile and who is so in bed with the big banks and corporate interests just to maintain their cushy jobs, flow of money and positions of power.

I was in the mindset of "vote blue no matter who" but that is a big steaming pile of shit! The DNC prefers to lose with Biden than to win with a candidate who will actually bring the change the USA so desperately needs in order to rebuild a middle class, guarantee rights and salvage Democracy. Even if the DNC can pull this off with Biden, nothing will change and they are setting the table for the next Trump. It does not matter to the establishment on either who the figurehead is or which party has the majority as they have all they really want and need and are royally screwing the people either way.

Caucasus? Electoral College? Debates that resemble sporting events moderated by corporate puppets? Delegates? Super Duper Delegates? Super Tuesday? What next...Orgasmic Wednesday? C'mon, this is a bad joke and the laugh is on the tools who buy into it. If the USA was honest about elections, they would be streamlined and organized with all states in sync with the process and PAPER BALLOTS and advancing the cause for voter education and turnout.

I'm done because I'm no one's tool or schmuck. Knock yourself out but I have interests and hobbies more worth pursuing than pretending this is okay. I will be sitting out this fraudulent excuse for an election process. I hope it gets better and truly democratic for the younger generation and I will continue to support all true Progressives and their agendas.
Starting my liberal election results mental breakdown list.

1) Cinnabar- 03/05/20 grade B- on intensity.
2) LV426
3) jimmymccready
4) jarod
5) TTQhatesyou
 
And I posted this in the current events forum because it is so very relevant right now! The DNC would rather prop up a candidate who is obviously going senile and who is so in bed with the big banks and corporate interests just to maintain their cushy jobs, flow of money and positions of power.

I was in the mindset of "vote blue no matter who" but that is a big steaming pile of shit! The DNC prefers to lose with Biden than to win with a candidate who will actually bring the change the USA so desperately needs in order to rebuild a middle class, guarantee rights and salvage Democracy. Even if the DNC can pull this off with Biden, nothing will change and they are setting the table for the next Trump. It does not matter to the establishment on either side who the figurehead is or which party has the majority as they have all they really want and need and are royally screwing the people either way.

Caucasus? Electoral College? Debates that resemble sporting events moderated by corporate puppets? Delegates? Super Duper Delegates? Super Tuesday? What next...Orgasmic Wednesday? C'mon, this is a bad joke and the laugh is on the tools who buy into it. If the USA was honest about the integrity of elections, they would be streamlined and organized with all states in sync with the process and PAPER BALLOTS and advancing the cause for voter education and turnout.

I'm done because I'm no one's tool or schmuck. Knock yourself out but I have interests and hobbies more worth pursuing than pretending this is okay. I will be sitting out this fraudulent excuse for an election process. I hope it gets better and truly democratic for the younger generation and I will continue to support all true Progressives and their agendas.

I'm with ya, but here's the thing...

Biden didn't have any money, ran virtually no ads, had virtually no campaign infrastructure, didn't even have a clear message, but leaned on endorsements and the privilege of being Obama's VP to connect with the Democratic base (black voters) and that was enough for those voters to make their choice at the last moment. I can't fault the DNC for that. They didn't play a part in Biden's surge on Tuesday, as much as I want to believe they did.

Fact of the matter is that turnout is up not because of Sanders or Biden, but because Democratic voters have been motivated by Trump to come out to the polls. While I think Biden is a weaker candidate on paper than Sanders or Warren, I don't think it matters at this point who the nominee is because Democrats are going to turn out the vote in November 2020, just like they did November 2019 and November 2018.

So my optimistic side looks at the turnout numbers so far and feels real encouraged that we can expunge Trump and the Senate GOP Majority.

So I'll vote for Biden in November, but I'm deeply skeptical that he truly earned it.

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And I posted this in the current events forum because it is so very relevant right now! The DNC would rather prop up a candidate who is obviously going senile and who is so in bed with the big banks and corporate interests just to maintain their cushy jobs, flow of money and positions of power.

I was in the mindset of "vote blue no matter who" but that is a big steaming pile of shit! The DNC prefers to lose with Biden than to win with a candidate who will actually bring the change the USA so desperately needs in order to rebuild a middle class, guarantee rights and salvage Democracy. Even if the DNC can pull this off with Biden, nothing will change and they are setting the table for the next Trump. It does not matter to the establishment on either side who the figurehead is or which party has the majority as they have all they really want and need and are royally screwing the people either way.

Caucasus? Electoral College? Debates that resemble sporting events moderated by corporate puppets? Delegates? Super Duper Delegates? Super Tuesday? What next...Orgasmic Wednesday? C'mon, this is a bad joke and the laugh is on the tools who buy into it. If the USA was honest about the integrity of elections, they would be streamlined and organized with all states in sync with the process and PAPER BALLOTS and advancing the cause for voter education and turnout.

I'm done because I'm no one's tool or schmuck. Knock yourself out but I have interests and hobbies more worth pursuing than pretending this is okay. I will be sitting out this fraudulent excuse for an election process. I hope it gets better and truly democratic for the younger generation and I will continue to support all true Progressives and their agendas.

Has Bernie lost already? I missed that! :laugh:
 
And I posted this in the current events forum because it is so very relevant right now! The DNC would rather prop up a candidate who is obviously going senile and who is so in bed with the big banks and corporate interests just to maintain their cushy jobs, flow of money and positions of power.

I was in the mindset of "vote blue no matter who" but that is a big steaming pile of shit! The DNC prefers to lose with Biden than to win with a candidate who will actually bring the change the USA so desperately needs in order to rebuild a middle class, guarantee rights and salvage Democracy. Even if the DNC can pull this off with Biden, nothing will change and they are setting the table for the next Trump. It does not matter to the establishment on either side who the figurehead is or which party has the majority as they have all they really want and need and are royally screwing the people either way.

Caucasus? Electoral College? Debates that resemble sporting events moderated by corporate puppets? Delegates? Super Duper Delegates? Super Tuesday? What next...Orgasmic Wednesday? C'mon, this is a bad joke and the laugh is on the tools who buy into it. If the USA was honest about the integrity of elections, they would be streamlined and organized with all states in sync with the process and PAPER BALLOTS and advancing the cause for voter education and turnout.

I'm done because I'm no one's tool or schmuck. Knock yourself out but I have interests and hobbies more worth pursuing than pretending this is okay. I will be sitting out this fraudulent excuse for an election process. I hope it gets better and truly democratic for the younger generation and I will continue to support all true Progressives and their agendas.

You're Bernie's tool and schmuck.
 
Starting my liberal election results mental breakdown list.

1) Cinnabar- 03/05/20 grade B- on intensity.
2) LV426
3) jimmymccready
4) jarod
5) TTQhatesyou

My list of assholes who have no one in their lives that challenges them to be better versions of who they are:

1) Southern Chicken

That's it. That's the list.
 
I will continue to support all true Progressives and their agendas.


It is difficult to fathom how a guy that can fill an auditorium with 20,000 people, gets beat by a guy that can't fill a Starbucks.

:dunno:
 
And I posted this in the current events forum because it is so very relevant right now! The DNC would rather prop up a candidate who is obviously going senile and who is so in bed with the big banks and corporate interests just to maintain their cushy jobs, flow of money and positions of power.

I was in the mindset of "vote blue no matter who" but that is a big steaming pile of shit! The DNC prefers to lose with Biden than to win with a candidate who will actually bring the change the USA so desperately needs in order to rebuild a middle class, guarantee rights and salvage Democracy. Even if the DNC can pull this off with Biden, nothing will change and they are setting the table for the next Trump. It does not matter to the establishment on either side who the figurehead is or which party has the majority as they have all they really want and need and are royally screwing the people either way.

Caucasus? Electoral College? Debates that resemble sporting events moderated by corporate puppets? Delegates? Super Duper Delegates? Super Tuesday? What next...Orgasmic Wednesday? C'mon, this is a bad joke and the laugh is on the tools who buy into it. If the USA was honest about the integrity of elections, they would be streamlined and organized with all states in sync with the process and PAPER BALLOTS and advancing the cause for voter education and turnout.

I'm done because I'm no one's tool or schmuck. Knock yourself out but I have interests and hobbies more worth pursuing than pretending this is okay. I will be sitting out this fraudulent excuse for an election process. I hope it gets better and truly democratic for the younger generation and I will continue to support all true Progressives and their agendas.

I think you are doing exactly the right thing. In fact you wont be alone as many more will join you. Why vote for someone or something you really dont believe in. Bravo to you for having the courage and decency to stand up for your convictions.
 
I want to address the false narratives we are seeing from leftists like Cinnabar:

And I posted this in the current events forum because it is so very relevant right now! The DNC would rather prop up a candidate who is obviously going senile and who is so in bed with the big banks and corporate interests just to maintain their cushy jobs, flow of money and positions of power.

How would we get by without the banks and corporations? I am confused by this moronic Marxist narrative trying to intimate that these are bad things.

Did you fly an airplane? Thank a corporation. Do you drive a car or motorcycle? Thank a corporation. Did you put gas in it? Thank a corporation. Do you use a computer? Thank a corporation. Do you own a home? Thank a corporation. Do rent an apartment? Thank a corporation. Did you get your food from a grocery store? Thank a corporation. Did you buy produce while there? Thank a corporation.
 
I think you are doing exactly the right thing. In fact you wont be alone as many more will join you. Why vote for someone or something you really dont believe in. Bravo to you for having the courage and decency to stand up for your convictions.

Would you say the same thing to someone on the right who doesn't vote for Trump?
 
I was in the mindset of "vote blue no matter who" but that is a big steaming pile of shit! The DNC prefers to lose with Biden than to win with a candidate who will actually bring the change the USA so desperately needs in order to rebuild a middle class, guarantee rights and salvage Democracy. Even if the DNC can pull this off with Biden, nothing will change and they are setting the table for the next Trump. It does not matter to the establishment on either side who the figurehead is or which party has the majority as they have all they really want and need and are royally screwing the people either way.

Maybe you should consider moving to a socialist utopia like Cuba, Venezuela or China?
 
I've been telling you all this since I've been on the board.

Here's the thing...the DNC didn't do anything to spur all those people to vote for Biden in SC and on Super Tuesday. Biden had virtually no campaign and decided his strategy was leaning on endorsements and the privilege of Obama's VP, and that was enough for the voters. But I can't stress this enough; those voters weren't pressured by the DNC into choosing Biden. Many of them made their choice at the last moment, which says to me that they were always planning on voting, they just didn't know for whom.

Now while I think Biden isn't great, has tons of vulnerabilities, and is a weaker candidate on paper than Sanders and Warren, the older black and suburban white voters -who do represent a big part of the Democratic Party- spoke very loudly and very clearly who they prefer. And while you and I may disagree with that, the voters overall didn't.

So what can we do? Well, we can continue fighting and voting for Sanders, which I plan to do in Georgia, and focus our energy and efforts registering voters and turning out the vote to make sure the GOP and Trump don't retain a shred of power. Biden clearly has the momentum on his side at the moment, and short of him literally shitting his pants on stage in 10 days, he is probably going to win the nomination. So all of us will need to eventually get behind him because beating Trump is very important. Once we do that, we can make life extremely difficult for Biden and the DNC by dogging them on progressive policies every chance we get.
 
I think you are doing exactly the right thing. In fact you wont be alone as many more will join you. Why vote for someone or something you really dont believe in. Bravo to you for having the courage and decency to stand up for your convictions.

That's why I've always voted for 3rd party candidates. :thup:
 
Caucasus? Electoral College? Debates that resemble sporting events moderated by corporate puppets? Delegates? Super Duper Delegates? Super Tuesday? What next...Orgasmic Wednesday? C'mon, this is a bad joke and the laugh is on the tools who buy into it. If the USA was honest about the integrity of elections, they would be streamlined and organized with all states in sync with the process and PAPER BALLOTS and advancing the cause for voter education and turnout.

I see that our LIBERAL educational establishment has failed you. I will endeavor to educate you;

We live in a Republic of States. The Constitution is not a document that empowers BIG Government; it LIMITS what BIG Government can do.

The electoral process was ingenious in that it ensures that ALL States have some form of representation when it comes to Presidential elections. Otherwise, two or three very large populous states would decide every election.

The way our Representatives are selected and the creation of a Senate with 2 representatives from EVERY state and a House which is determined by a census of the population every ten years is equally genius.

Democracy is a very messy and confusing thing sometimes. But it is the BEST form of Governance which ensures individual liberty and freedoms. BUT, here is the best part Cinnabar; you can LEAVE anytime you want to. HINT. ;)
 
Why don't they break down Black voters like they do white voters?

Why aren't Black voters grouped by educated Blacks, soccer moms, suburban moms, middle class, etc?

Blacks aren't a monolithic group. What issues concern Blacks in the south is different than what Blacks want on the west. Seems to me the media is trying to convince Bernie supporters that it's Blacks that didn't vote for him. How can anyone trust anything that comes from republican run states?

There are more white voters that didn't vote for bernie than Blacks did for biden.

Why isn't the media talking about those people? They are why bernie didn't win.

The media is sending the false message that Blacks overwelmingly don't want what Bernie is advocating and that's not true. Not to mention, the cheating in texASS. How can yall just accept cheating as if didn't happen?

This entire election process is a sham. It's designed to keep the white wealthy in charge of the country.

Anyone who thinks their vote counts is naive.
 
I'm done because I'm no one's tool or schmuck.

So true; you're your very own schmuck. An uneducated one. ;)

Can I help you pack?

Knock yourself out but I have interests and hobbies more worth pursuing than pretending this is okay. I will be sitting out this fraudulent excuse for an election process. I hope it gets better and truly democratic for the younger generation and I will continue to support all true Progressives and their agendas.

I don't believe one word. But if you need help packing; call me! ;)
 
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