Robo
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If it upsets you old buddy, I certainly apologize!!!
The solution for healthcare that will never be instituted
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If it upsets you old buddy, I certainly apologize!!!
It doesn't upset me, Robo.
Just trying to help you make as strong a case as you can.
Now...you have got to work on only accepting "facts" that fit your narrative.
WE AMERICANS ARE AT THE BOTTOM OF THE HEALTHCARE LIST AMONG THE INDUSTRIALIZED COUNTRIES.
If you are going to simply dismiss anything that does not fit into your personal narrative...you are essentially conceding the argument.
PoliTalker
Diversity Makes Greatness
Hello Robo,
That's a two way street. Americans travel abroad for health care they cannot afford here.
Opinion.
If that were true the National Weather Service should be done on a piecemeal state-by-state basis. We should al be left to our own devices in guessing when the next big Hurricane Katrina, Harvey, Sandy, etc, hits.
The founders also had interesting views on big corporations.
And yet that is the leading world authority on health care. Looks like it is the right against the world. Nothing new there.
That's a two way street. Americans travel abroad for health care they cannot afford here.
Opinion.
If that were true the National Weather Service should be done on a piecemeal state-by-state basis. We should al be left to our own devices in guessing when the next big Hurricane Katrina, Harvey, Sandy, etc, hits.
The founders also had interesting views on big corporations.
And yet that is the leading world authority on health care. Looks like it is the right against the world. Nothing new there.
If you believe opinion polls, I suppose you'll believe "rankings."
Lower tax rates subsidized by raiding the welfare block grant.
Robo
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Then you can explain why two of America's states have researched it and rejected it as being too non-affordable, right Pal Frankie?
You see Frank, the European countries and Canada are nations with far less population than the United States. Some individual states in America have populations larger than most of those countries. They contribute little compared to the United States to their own national defense, WALLA! Money in the bank. WALLA! tax loot for single payer. The United States Frank, has a national defense budget and expenditures larger than the rest of the world put together. And along with our federal socialist welfare system and our crony capitalist corporate subsidies system, WALLA 22 trillion $ in national debt! Estimated cost for American single payer healthcare 7 trillion $.
Robo
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So you admit that most of the moves folks make to lower tax states is precisely because of the lower tax rates, right?
Robo
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Well Frankie buddy, I am what I am! I'm to old to change and I have little to no trust in any rankings of anything, especially healthcare presented by the UN's socialist/leftist World Health Organization.
Why does the health insurance system suck? Simple; each state regulates it differently.
No one is debating America's health care system. The debate is purely on the mechanism by which your doctor is reimbursed for care after they provide it.
The best, easiest, simplest, most cost-effective way to administrate that is to have a single payer that handles all reimbursement and uses its leverage as the single payer to bargain for cheaper drugs...which Democrats just submitted a bill today to allow Medicare to directly negotiate with drug companies. Part-D (Bush and the Conservatives' prescription drug plan) prohibits Medicare from doing that now.
So you would support Medicare directly negotiating for drugs, right? If so, then why would you object to a single payer doing that?
Most people relocate because of their jobs, not the tax rates.
My point was that low tax rates in red states are subsidized by welfare.
Which would make every red state that uses the welfare block grant to close budget gaps a welfare state.
Funny how you don't respect our Constitutional checks-and-balances.
This is utter nonsense.
Right...everyone is wrong except you, the guy so dumb he got conned by Donald Trump.
It doesn't suck for me for reasons already provided.
If it sucks for you, that's your problem. Since I don't give a shit if you have it, I don't give a shit if you go without care.
Great. So burn your own lifeboat and withdraw from society, then. If you want to be anti-social, walk the walk.
Funny how Obama himself said Obamacare wasn't a tax yet when the Court said it was OK based on the government's ability to tax, Obama didn't say they were wrong. Why wouldn't he stand up, be a man, and repeat what he had said before about it not being a tax?
If, as you believe, the Court is always right, why do we have Brown v. Board of Education? Wouldn't the decision in Plessy have been settled law?
Not exactly.
A single payer system needs to be national because of out-of-state people who work in one state, but live in another (think NY workers who live in NJ). That's why the one in Vermont didn't work; because there were people who worked in Vermont, but live in New York, Massachusetts, and New Hampshire. Each state regulates insurance differently...which is the crux of the problem and which only federalism can solve.
Single payer should never be instituted. Either do what you need to do to provide it for yourself or do without.
There is no single payer nation that is switching their system to our model.
You have? Cite these alleged "reasonable and rational points."
I'll understand if you can't, naturally.
Is that a fact?
Who told you that?