Obamacare Lite is out!

[Norah]

You're talking about efficiency, which is exactly what ACA is about. But you don't know about ACA, rather, what the talking points are from Conservatives.

Are you saying that efficiency and waste aren't linked?

 

[PostmodernProphet]

It's all opinion, even from the Supreme Court

at least your opinion is the same as the SC......the liberals can't claim the same.......

 

[Norah]

at least your opinion is the same as the SC......the liberals can't claim the same.......

What do you mean?

 

[PostmodernProphet]

You cannot refer to the Constitution any more than you can the Bible in order to steer your way through present day issues.

thats true of liberals.......they reject the constitution unless its something they can mold to their own wishes.....

 

[PostmodernProphet]

Let me guess .. you intend to reject Social Security, Medicare, and all government dependent assistance when you become of age?

You would rather die than accept any assistance?

How about your kids if you have any? Would you rather allow your kids to die before you'd accept government assistance to keep them alive?

Just wondering how deep your 'principles' go.

You can call that hyperbole .. but there are Americans living that 'hyperbole.'

you didn't answer the question......she's right, and she nailed it......

 

[PostmodernProphet]

I'm 20 years old and very independent but I understand that to some people I'm still a child regardless.

don't take it that way........liberals will always treat those who are right as if they are children and don't understand.......its their failing, not yours.......

 

[PostmodernProphet]

Money spent on education always pays dividends.

really?......the school districts that pay more per student than any other, places like Detroit and Washington DC and Buffalo New York aren't showing dividends......they are showing failure......

 

[PostmodernProphet]

No

denial

 

[PostmodernProphet]

What do you mean?

you accurately stated what the SC decided.....BAC said it was wrong and only your opinion......obviously it was an opinion you shared with the court.....BAC does not share the court's opinion.......

 

[Rune]

Ok but using this type of logic couldn't it be argued that money spent on defense is never wasted? Or education?

Education yes.
But when more than half of discretionary spending is for defense yes it is a waste.
The pittance spent on health is insignificant compared tp corporate welfare.

 

[Rune]

I'm 20 years old and very independent but I understand that to some people I'm still a child regardless.

True.
You pretty much don't know anything.
If you did you would not advocate for the wealthy but for the poor.
THAT IS WHAT JESUS WAS ALL ABOUT.

 

[Rune]

I'm 20 years old and very independent but I understand that to some people I'm still a child regardless.

You are not even a little independent unless you pay ALL your own bills.
Uou can't even understand a simple word nevermind a complex issue.

 

[cancel2 2022]

you do realize Medicade is gov't funded healthcare..?

So is Medicare, how did that get past by your wonderful Constitution?

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[Rune]

Never wasted? Isn't that rather idealistic that you accuse her of being?

Not at all.

 

[cancel2 2022]

She is a child without a clue.

Well for once we agree, but I daresay she is heavily influenced by her parents.

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[cancel2 2022]

I'm guessing your drug prices are about 50% cheaper than ours?

The NHS by virtue of its size can negotiate big discounts. However they need to get their shit together over items like surgical gloves etc. Too many hospital trusts do their own thing rather than ordering nationally, there are huge savings to be had there.

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[cancel2 2022]

I don't think the founders had much of a focus on universal healthcare. If they did it would have been explicitly mentioned in the constitution, like they did with guns, speech, search and seizure, quartering of soldiers, and so on. You would think healthcare would have been written in ink.

Holy crap, what was the average life expectancy back in the 19th century?

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[cancel2 2022]

If you study history, hospitals were little more than a place to go to die, well into the 20th century.

Seemingly that is what she wants to go back to, unwittingly maybe

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[cawacko]

True.
You pretty much don't know anything.
If you did you would not advocate for the wealthy but for the poor.
THAT IS WHAT JESUS WAS ALL ABOUT.

So to be a Christian means being a socialist? No, it doesn't.

An funny you're trying to tell a 20 year college woman she knows nothing.

 

[cawacko]

Not at all.

So because you like what the money is being spent on you consider none of it wasted. That's extremely naive