Obamacare Lite is out!

Rune said:
So you pay rent, food, tuition, carand health insurance bills?

LMFAO.

YOU ARE A TYPICAL "CONSERVATIVE"
which translates into selfish in any other language.
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Most of my tuition is paid for by scholarships, from livestock sales while I was in high school, and through rodeo winnings. My parents do help me pay a portion of my expenses but for the most part I'm paying my way.
 
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Milagro said:
Everybody who works and earns above the threshold pays National Insurance, this provides for the NHS and the state pension. It is taken out at source by your employer. The self employed also pay by a different mechanism.

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To piss off snowflakes, bottom feeders and racists
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I'm guessing your drug prices are about 50% cheaper than ours?
 
Norah said:
Compassion and kindness towards others does not hinge on supporting a political idea
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You do recognize that without Social Security and Medicare, millions of elderly Americans couldn't afford to stay alive, right?

Would you consider keeping Americans alive to be a "political idea?"
 
Althea said:
You don't think the Founders felt that health insurance should be affordable?
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I don't think the founders had much of a focus on universal healthcare. If they did it would have been explicitly mentioned in the constitution, like they did with guns, speech, search and seizure, quartering of soldiers, and so on. You would think healthcare would have been written in ink.
 
Norah said:
I do not agree that healthcare is part of interstate commerce. It's a slippery slope clause that could be used by politically driven people to interpret most any sort of business as a responsibility of the federal government which then consolidates more power to that central government. We should not be dependent on government. It's the other way around.
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If the govt. can force hospitals to treat people for free, then the govt. should be allowed to force people to carry insurance.
 
blackascoal said:
You do recognize that without Social Security and Medicare, millions of elderly Americans couldn't afford to stay alive, right?

Would you consider keeping Americans alive to be a "political idea?"
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In 1934 compared to 1936 were there millions of elderly dying after social security passed in 1935? Before 1966 were there millionaire of elderly dying compared to 1968 a year after Medicare was created? In my opinion hyperbole like that scares people into depending on government.
 
Norah said:
I don't think the founders had much of a focus on universal healthcare. If they did it would have been explicitly mentioned in the constitution, like they did with guns, speech, search and seizure, quartering of soldiers, and so on. You would think healthcare would have been written in ink.
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Lol, a doctor back then would save your life or try to without pay, if you were able to compensate them, great, if not, they were required by their oath to save you. Hospitals weren't what they are now. They didn't include it because medicine for profit didn't exist.

Pennsylvania Hospital was founded in 1751 by Dr. Thomas Bond and Benjamin Franklin "to care for the sick-poor and insane who were wandering the streets of Philadelphia." At the time, Philadelphia was the fastest growing city in the 13 colonies.

https://www.google.com/search?q=first+hospital+in+america&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en-us&client=safari
 
Jarod said:
Have you ever dealt with Medicaid? Its barely healthcare.
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Why do people who refer to 'govt. funded' not realize that it means 'funded by society'? We pay the govt. to fund these programs. And I'm fine with funding healthcare. I'm not fine with wasting billions on weapons that we don't need.
 
Althea said:
Why do people who refer to 'govt. funded' not realize that it means 'funded by society'? We pay the govt. to fund these programs. And I'm fine with funding healthcare. I'm not fine with wasting billions on weapons that we don't need.
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Amen!
 
Rune said:
Then you are a complete and utter hypocrite.

Read your own signature line.
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She's still a nymph. When she goes through her metamorphosis, she'll understand how adults separate ingrained principles from realistic expectations.
 
Althea said:
Why do people who refer to 'govt. funded' not realize that it means 'funded by society'? We pay the govt. to fund these programs. And I'm fine with funding healthcare. I'm not fine with wasting billions on weapons that we don't need.
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The way you feel about billions being wasted on weapons, which I also agree with you on, is the same how people feel when government wastes billions on healthcare. This is what happens when you give government more power than what they should have in my opinion.
 
Althea said:
She's still a nymph. When she goes through her metamorphosis, she'll understand how adults separate ingrained principles from realistic expectations.
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I don't see the need to insult me. I'm just trying to have a debate on an important issue.
 
Norah said:
I don't think the founders had much of a focus on universal healthcare. If they did it would have been explicitly mentioned in the constitution, like they did with guns, speech, search and seizure, quartering of soldiers, and so on. You would think healthcare would have been written in ink.
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You really are a cutie. I'm sure you'll make a good person some day. You do realize that society has changed since our founding? The point is that there weren't even qualified doctors when our Founders were penning the Constitution. Blacksmiths were dentists too. Say nothing of insurance.

You cannot refer to the Constitution any more than you can the Bible in order to steer your way through present day issues.
 
Norah said:
In 1934 compared to 1936 were there millions of elderly dying after social security passed in 1935? Before 1966 were there millionaire of elderly dying compared to 1968 a year after Medicare was created? In my opinion hyperbole like that scares people into depending on government.
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Let me guess .. you intend to reject Social Security, Medicare, and all government dependent assistance when you become of age?

You would rather die than accept any assistance?

How about your kids if you have any? Would you rather allow your kids to die before you'd accept government assistance to keep them alive?

Just wondering how deep your 'principles' go.

You can call that hyperbole .. but there are Americans living that 'hyperbole.'
 
Norah said:
Compassion and kindness towards others does not hinge on supporting a political idea
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I couldn't get health insurance since Iwas 24 due to pre-existing conditions.
Due to Obama care I am alive. I had major surgery on my heart.
I was very lucky to have survived all that time.
 
Queen Snowflake said:
Lol, a doctor back then would save your life or try to without pay, if you were able to compensate them, great, if not, they were required by their oath to save you. Hospitals weren't what they are now. They didn't include it because medicine for profit didn't exist.

Pennsylvania Hospital was founded in 1751 by Dr. Thomas Bond and Benjamin Franklin "to care for the sick-poor and insane who were wandering the streets of Philadelphia." At the time, Philadelphia was the fastest growing city in the 13 colonies.

https://www.google.com/search?q=first+hospital+in+america&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en-us&client=safari
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If you study history, hospitals were little more than a place to go to die, well into the 20th century.
 
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