Minimum wage debate continues

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I Love America said:
What is funny is that you think either are something to brag about. Apparently you have come from very meager means if you think that $1 million and having an MBA is something to brag about. An MBA is a dime a dozen.
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Are you retarded
I've said constantly my bragging issue has to do with coming from the lower middle class.
No being in the 1 percent is not that big a deal
All the MBA did was get e a cushy 6 fig gig and give me the basis to become a much better than average investor.
Plenty of conservatives discuss there educations here patriot doesn't even have a degree, he's not ashamed, neither is bravo or tinfoil.
Dumbyanky is a facility engineer, soc or winter is an engineer
 
cawacko said:
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Wrong. Do your homework as to how the housing market scam effected the world economy...especially the EU. And again, go look and see who cooked the books for Greece to get into the EU in the first place.

But again, this is a detour as to the original topic of discussion. What is your stance on that?
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Yes the U.S. housing market affected European countries economies. No question about that. I was simply saying their economies aren't solely based on that.

I never said they were....but like a car, if one tire blows out, the entire car is pretty screwed. And if a certain US finance company didn't cook the books for Greece, it wouldn't have qualified in the first place.

I'm a free market guy. I'm of the belief that higher minimum wages help the individual that has a job but ultimately hurts those looking for one (especially young people). I've read both sides of this argument and I understand why some people want it raised. I'm not heartless to those who are struggling. I ultimately don't think having the government forcing businesses to pay a certain amount is a benefit in the long run.
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Bottom line: you're STILL preaching the SOS that just doesn't make sense. If a company is doing well, it will hire more people. If the workers have a decent wage so they can pay their rent, buy new clothes, more food, etc., then the overall economy does well.

There is NO such thing as a true "free market" in this country...because if there was then all the current banks would have failed and been replaced with people and institutions who could do the job right and honestly. "Trickle down", the bastard child of the "free market" has been an abject failure.
 
Rose said:
Now that's a brilliant thought! All we gotta' do is just create policy consitency among all countries, whither developed, developing, or polluted, crime ridden, and rotting and whatnot! No, Anti. That is not the only solution. It isn't even the most feasible. The reason outsourcing occurs is because we allow the MOP to be controlled by individuals; individuals who just do their job; that job being to produce the highest rate of profit possible.

Now how do we fix this? It isn't by chasing the impossibility of creating equality among all regions. It's by rooting businesses to the United States. How? By making those with the ability to outsource and those whose jobs will be outsourced.... the same people.
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Stop blowing smoke....the man merely pointed out that if we are going to do business with other countries, then let them meet decent standards...if not, don't do business with them. This means NO selling, NO outsourcing, etc.

Build a better mouse trap, and the world will beat a path to your door.
 
Cawacko comes off as one not so easily led.
Till you find out he went to SC
So gobbling shit comes natural to him.
Ie study showing increasing min wage tied to calamitous results.
 
Taichiliberal said:
Bottom line: you're STILL preaching the SOS that just doesn't make sense. If a company is doing well, it will hire more people. If the workers have a decent wage so they can pay their rent, buy new clothes, more food, etc., then the overall economy does well.

There is NO such thing as a true "free market" in this country...because if there was then all the current banks would have failed and been replaced with people and institutions who could do the job right and honestly. "Trickle down", the bastard child of the "free market" has been an abject failure.
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Me being a free market guy doesn't mean we have a free market in this county. Trust me I'm well aware of the crony capitalism we practice here.

I've worked a number of years on full commission and I've been laid off before. I get what it is like to not know if you're next paycheck is coming. I know what's it like to not know if you can pay your next month's rent etc. I'm not heartless to those who are in similar situations. Hell I'm practically going through it now again. That doesn't change my belief that the government fostering an environment (via regulation, tax laws etc.) that encourages innovation and creativity (basically entrepreneurship) leads to the highest standard of living. That allows new businesses to flourish and hire people etc.

I am not a believer of high tax rates in which we practice redistribution to try and even things out. To me that makes the total pie smaller. My goal would be the whole pie growing with more people participating in it.
 
cawacko said:
Me being a free market guy doesn't mean we have a free market in this county. Trust me I'm well aware of the crony capitalism we practice here.

I've worked a number of years on full commission and I've been laid off before. I get what it is like to not know if you're next paycheck is coming. I know what's it like to not know if you can pay your next month's rent etc. I'm not heartless to those who are in similar situations. Hell I'm practically going through it now again. That doesn't change my belief that the government fostering an environment (via regulation, tax laws etc.) that encourages innovation and creativity (basically entrepreneurship) leads to the highest standard of living. That allows new businesses to flourish and hire people etc.

I am not a believer of high tax rates in which we practice redistribution to try and even things out. To me that makes the total pie smaller. My goal would be the whole pie growing with more people participating in it.
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So like most SC grads your a simpleton
 
I Love America said:
What is funny is that you think either are something to brag about. Apparently you have come from very meager means if you think that $1 million and having an MBA is something to brag about. An MBA is a dime a dozen.
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Right and your great degree is wait for it. I'm not telling
1 mil in financial assets is what it takes to be in the 1 percent. Plenty for me
Hey your boss is calling
 
It's simple sure but also a basic fundamental principle. If we want to talk more details about the government getting involved in setting wages how about a payment system determined by revenue where we can differentiate between those businesses that are truly struggling to get by and those who are doing well but choose not to pay their employees more?
 
cawacko said:
It's simple sure but also a basic fundamental principle. If we want to talk more details about the government getting involved in setting wages how about a payment system determined by revenue where we can differentiate between those businesses that are truly struggling to get by and those who are doing well but choose not to pay their employees more?
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Have you ever seen hard evidence against the min wage?
 
The Dude said:
I'm not shocked with your narrow mindedness that you are near jobless again!
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It comes with the territory of working with a start up. I'd rather take the risk with the higher potential upside than stuck in the beaucracy of a large corporation.
 
The Dude said:
You lost me, what does start up vs corp have to do with it
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I mentioned I could be on the verge of losing my job again and the reasoning based on if we get additional funding or not. When I took this job I had the option of working with a large real estate development firm or this small start up. I chose the latter. With it comes the risk the company doesn't make it. I think we'll survive but it's possible we don't and we'll know shortly.
 
cawacko said:
I mentioned I could be on the verge of losing my job again and the reasoning based on if we get additional funding or not. When I took this job I had the option of working with a large real estate development firm or this small start up. I chose the latter. With it comes the risk the company doesn't make it. I think we'll survive but it's possible we don't and we'll know shortly.
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Good luck. :D Personally, I'm working with a start up before I leave for college - it's a blast, but I there's no certainty of it becoming a source of income for anyone.
 
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