Minimum wage debate continues

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Taichiliberal

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Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
The sheer insanity of those who are against a minimum wage increase after YEARS of stagnation (in light of an INCREASING COLA), never ceases to amaze me.

It's like this people.....if your workers have a decent amount of money, then they SPEND more! That means PROFITS for other businesses, who may HIGHER more people. And so on, and so on.

Got it? Good.

A poster responded: The stupidity of the above is what amazes me. If you raise the cost of labor across the board, then the costs of goods sold also goes up. You are not changing purchasing power, you are simply shifting the entire wage scale up.

What is truly ironic is so many of those that champion the increase in minimum wage also rail against companies like WalMart.

Let's examine the major flaw in the responding poster's statement: "cost of labor" is in reality the COLA. Description of COLA

COLA is an acronym for cost-of-living adjustment or cost-of-living allowance. Cost-of-living adjustments are raises in pay that cover the cost of inflation, which influences the cost of living expenses such as rent, food, gas and clothing. A COLA can be tied to national, international or geographical data. The Consumer Price Index, which measures the average price change for a set number of consumer items over time, is often used to figure a COLA.
http://smallbusiness.chron.com/cola-terms-payroll-34151.html

So right off the bat the responding poster's claim is DEAD wrong. But his erroneous assertions are the backbone of the "conservative" mantras that support the anti-union, low wage giant like WalMart. Figures. :rolleyes:
 
Ahm it's not rich people on the right claiming that, mostly the blue collar Fox News room temperature IQ righty we have in abundance here.
 
if you want to raise the minimum wage, then stop fucking around with it. raise the bitch to $100,000 a year and watch the economy boom at least according to you geniuses
 
I Love America said:
if you want to raise the minimum wage, then stop fucking around with it. raise the bitch to $100,000 a year and watch the economy boom at least according to you geniuses
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You're a moron. An influx of extra cash to allow people to.live in their OWN FUCKING COUNTRY is not the equivalent of $100k/year. That's the problem with ignorant fucks like you....you don't think there's any solution besides allowing greedy rich fucks to attain as.much as they can while the masses suffer.

There's only so much room at the top and something's got to give. The poor and working class can't afford anymore, and the VITAL middle class is shrinking at a frightening pace. The money is going into the pockets of the Greedy Bastards at the top of the food chain. But even they have to realize that if all the levels below them collapse, then their wealth isn't worth squat anyway.
 
Steelplate said:
You're a moron. An influx of extra cash to allow people to.live in their OWN FUCKING COUNTRY is not the equivalent of $100k/year. That's the problem with ignorant fucks like you....you don't think there's any solution besides allowing greedy rich fucks to attain as.much as they can while the masses suffer.

There's only so much room at the top and something's got to give. The poor and working class can't afford anymore, and the VITAL middle class is shrinking at a frightening pace. The money is going into the pockets of the Greedy Bastards at the top of the food chain. But even they have to realize that if all the levels below them collapse, then their wealth isn't worth squat anyway.
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Gee whiz douche tip, here I am agreeing with you and actually solving the problem and you want to get all bitchy and butt hurt about it.

You greedy liberal fucks only want to raise it to $10/hour. That ain't shit. Come bitch. Step up to the fucking plate. Raise the minimum wage to $100,000 a year. Think of the economic growth.

What? You have a problem with $100,000 a year for someone flipping burgers? Is that more than you make? You would get a raise stock boy.

Stop yer bitchin and find some solutions.

PWND
 
I Love America said:
Gee whiz douche tip, here I am agreeing with you and actually solving the problem and you want to get all bitchy and butt hurt about it.

You greedy liberal fucks only want to raise it to $10/hour. That ain't shit. Come bitch. Step up to the fucking plate. Raise the minimum wage to $100,000 a year. Think of the economic growth.

What? You have a problem with $100,000 a year for someone flipping burgers? Is that more than you make? You would get a raise stock boy.

Stop yer bitchin and find some solutions.

PWND
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No you're not...you are being bombastic and over the top...which is simply the Conservative forte.
 
Steelplate said:
No you're not...you are being bombastic and over the top...which is simply the Conservative forte.
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So what is wrong with raising the minimum wage to $100,000? Why is that bad? You don't want the free market to set wages. You obviously want to pick an arbitrary number. So what is wrong with an amount that will really get people out of poverty?

Explain that. GO!
 
I Love America said:
So what is wrong with raising the minimum wage to $100,000? Why is that bad? You don't want the free market to set wages. You obviously want to pick an arbitrary number. So what is wrong with an amount that will really get people out of poverty?

Explain that. GO!
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I obviously want to pick an arbitrary number? Wasn't it you who did just that?
 
Steelplate said:
No you're not...you are being bombastic and over the top...which is simply the Conservative forte.
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If you support a minimum wage, then you support an arbitrary number. Definitionally it can be no other way. Think it through. Let me know what you come up with. If the market will bear $6/hour for a job and you demand that it be $10. Then you are picking an arbitrary number. Get it?
 
I Love America said:
If you support a minimum wage, then you support an arbitrary number. Definitionally it can be no other way. Think it through. Let me know what you come up with. If the market will bear $6/hour for a job and you demand that it be $10. Then you are picking an arbitrary number. Get it?
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But the $6/hr number that YOU made up is arbitrary. How about the fat cats at the top make a little less and wait a little bit longer to be mega wealthy? Can't do that....can we?
 
Raise it all you want. It automated manufacturing, let's automate retail, fast food, and clerical work too.
 
I have a dream, where if you don't have an actual skill, you don't have any job at all. And I'm proud to say we're fast approaching that kind of world.
 
Steelplate said:
Did I say that? All I'm calling for is fucking decency....but let's do go over the top.
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You said how about the fat cats at the top make a little less. I asked if you recommended a cap on earnings. I didn't say you said that I asked you the question.
 
Kane said:
Raise it all you want. It automated manufacturing, let's automate retail, fast food, and clerical work too.
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And what good has it done us? Seriously...we have crappier products that are virtually disposable and more people.living in the dregs of our society....the ONLY.people it has benefited is the.people who were already wealthy to begin with...and a select few who learned how to nail shit together that had never been nailed together before....for the vast majority of the people....it's been a burden.
 
cawacko said:
You said how about the fat cats at the top make a little less. I asked if you recommended a cap on earnings. I didn't say you said that I asked you the question.
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I think we ought to be in line with most industrialized countries, namely European ones. There are some Banana Republics with better wealth distribution statistics than us.
 
Steelplate said:
I think we ought to be in line with most industrialized countries, namely European ones. There are some Banana Republics with better wealth distribution statistics than us.
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Do you see the current economic condition many European countries are in? Not a whole there to envy.
 
cawacko said:
Do you see the current economic condition many European countries are in? Not a whole there to envy.
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The average french and Italian family have twice the wealth of the American family!
We do have more rich, like those of us who got lucky enough to trip and land in the 1 percent.
 
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