sorry but wind energy and solar are not reliable and you know it
Yes, Texas’s Blackouts Are The Result Of Unreliable ‘Green’ Energy
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sorry but wind energy and solar are not reliable and you know it
The Pipeline Technology Journal says they can (and did):
"The winter storm sweeping through much of continental United States with Arctic-like record-setting temperatures has literally frozen the natural gas pipelines crisscrossing much of Texas, the second largest state in the country, after Alaska. Many are not designed to withstand such low temperatures on equipment or during production."
https://www.pipeline-journal.net/ne...pelines-mexico-leaving-millions-without-power
So does the Pipeline and Gas Journal:
"http://pgjonline.com/magazine/2015/january-2015-vol-242-no-1/features/cold-weather-can-play-havoc-on-natural-gas-systems
"Freezing can occur not only when water in the gas stream mixes with temperatures below 32 degrees Fahrenheit, but also with the presence of hydrates well above the freezing mark. Freezing can occur in natural gas from gas wells and from produced gas from crude oil wells. It can occur at any point from production to delivery."
You are right here Flash. And ITN obviously does not know much about diesel engines either.
tigerred59
Verified User
Bottom line is this, whether we go green, blue or black for oil....climate changes are coming and its coming like a bullet. We can either ignore what has been happening for the last 20 years and keep piling up the loss and catastrophic costs or or or we can began to confront the beast and make serious sound adjustments to our infrastructures and grids because this shit is only gonna get worse.
Carmine
Loose Cannon
Why do we encourage stupid threads like this by offering responses?
Everybody with more than a cashew-sized nub on the top of his/her spinal cord knows that the Texas disaster was a direct result of insufficient regulation and nothing else.
There aren't two sides to this story.
There's just reality and trumpanzee bullshit.
The Texas reliance on green energy caused the blackout; I feel like I'm hemorrhaging IQ points just by typing those words.
Can't we have any standards at all over here?
Everybody with more than a cashew-sized nub on the top of his/her spinal cord knows that the Texas disaster was a direct result of insufficient regulation and nothing else.
There aren't two sides to this story.
There's just reality and trumpanzee bullshit.
The Texas reliance on green energy caused the blackout; I feel like I'm hemorrhaging IQ points just by typing those words.
Can't we have any standards at all over here?
Into the Night
Contributor
He is not right. And I have run diesel engines down to -10 deg F with no problem. All you need to do is put an additive in the fuel. You can run them easily down to -35 deg F.
Into the Night
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Into the Night
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Buzzword fallacy. There is no such thing as 'climate change'. Climate does not have any quantitative value.
Climate has no speed.
Like what?
What loss?
What catastrophic costs?
What beast? Do you consider 'climate' some kind of animal??
Vague 'solution' to an unspecified 'problem'.
What shit?
Your meaningless buzzwords are only resulting in a void argument fallacy. You are mindlessly chanting scripture from the Church of Global Warming.
Lightbringer
Loves Me Some Souls
Into the Night
Contributor
Nope. It was the result of extremely cold weather and ice damaging distribution lines, windmills, and solar panels.
Just one.
Define 'reality'.
Nope. The ICE STORM caused the blackout (in certain areas).
IQ is a meaningless number. You are already stupid. You have nothing to lose.
See the JPP rules.
Into the Night
Contributor
Random words. Try to stay on topic.
Into the Night
Contributor
Not at all. Starting steam engines in frozen conditions was done fairly often, when steam locomotives were the norm.
Into the Night
Contributor
It didn't. There was no 'energy crash'.
T. A. Gardner
Serial Thread Killer
Okay, so Texas lives and learns. They winterize their natural gas plants and it doesn't happen next time. Texas can't make the wind blow when it's not. Thus, wind will always remain an unreliable source of power.
T. A. Gardner
Serial Thread Killer
Diesel engines can be cold started. The two usual ways are:
For smaller ones, ether is used
Keep a can in the backhoe just in case.
The other common one for larger diesel engines, particularly fixed installations, is compressed air.
That is true with any Wind Power generation, but Wind is only one source, though it is fairly reliable, Solar is another source and sunshine is not in short suply here. Hence why I have and others have small solar systems to provide extra energy, I run both my Barn and Workshop on it but also have grid power running to both though I never needed it since I simply do not use that much power in either.
No one is seriously talking about closing our gas powered generation facilities, that simply is not feasable at this point in time, but having alternative sources of power available helps reduce costs and provides supplemental power when needed, I see nothing wrong with that.
tigerred59
Verified User
Ya know, if you weren't so stuck on stupidity and ignorance, I'd continue this conversation. But I am so up to here, with you alternative fact Trump nuts....4 years of you people is 4 years too damn many. You people are literally exhausting to say the least
Going without electricity is an energy crash. You do not get to say what is and is not. The crash was caused by dereg and not hardening the grid and energy production to withstand cold weather. We allow corporations to run things and this is what we get. The Texas grid was the only one that crashed. El Paso,Texas did not suffer from the CRASH. They were on a better grid.