Why do liberals think they can tell businesses how much to pay workers?

Why do liberals think they can tell businesses how much to pay?

  • Because they want a raise

    Votes: 2 28.6%

  • Because they are Communists

    Votes: 3 42.9%

  • Because they are Socialists

    Votes: 4 57.1%

  • Because they are arrogant condescending elites

    Votes: 6 85.7%
  • Total voters
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evince said:
We as Americans have the right to raise the minimum wage too.


why do you WANT people living in poverty even though they are willing to do honest work?
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Desh I don't want people to live in poverty.

1) Adding a couple of dollars to the minimum wage is not going to bring people out of poverty

2) You choose to ignore the other economic effects raising the minimum wage would have as if it just happens in a vacuum
 
we are not a vacume.

we are a country in which people can work 40 hours a week and not have enough to live on.


when you raise these peoples wages they spend it all directly into the economy.
 
If the price of fast food goes up because libs wanted to feel better about themselves by forcing the market to pay workers more than they deserve to earn, poor people won't be able to afford tasty fast food.

Why do libs want to deny affordable food to the poor?
 
worker have rights when they sign the paperwork after being hired huh.


why do you pretend they don't sign a contract?
 
Patriot said:
Why?
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Why do conservatives think everyone should lick their assholes?

Ya'll are so fucking un-American. Exploit cheap labor, nullification, kiss money foreign interests asses, sabotage our government, stupid military adventurism and immoral wars, no respect what so ever for personal freedoms and liberty....they're just words to you. You have no idea what they mean. You despise education and critical thinking and the hard working people who built this country and made it great. Why are right wing conservatives so un-American and so Anti-American?

Why do you hate American values and try to enforce your 19th Century European values onto the rest of the nations and try to turn everyone into bonded serfs? Why do you hate America and American values?
 
Attila the Hun said:
Exactly. They are nothing but SELF SERVING. There was once an experiment conducted on rats where they were given a choice between having the pleasure center of their brain stimulated or being fed. 100% of the time the rats starved to death. THAT is the behavior of a prole. They don't even have the capacity to imagine the long term, let alone actually work towards it.
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ROTFLMAO! Wow....what a double standard. That's what pisses me off about most right wingers. When they advocate their own self interest or that of the wealthy is "free market entrepranuership" but if a working class person does it, its loathsome socialist self serving behavior! LOL

Get real.
 
Annie said:
They are the 'progressive' elites. They believe that businesses exist to serve the employees and customers. Funny thing though, time and again their ideas are run through think tanks and government accounting and 'if implemented' would cost 'some,' 'lots' of loss of jobs. So 'some' would get more, others nothing.

Same grand plan of unions. "no compromise!" Many lose their jobs.

The 'customer is always right' isn't because business is enamored with all customers-just speak to any that have actually dealt with them-rather, an acknowledgment that it is the customer that fuels the business, the profits-that will pay the employees, owner(s) including stockholders.

Most businesses pay somewhat more than minimum wage to entry employees not out of altruism (shock), but to try to attract workers that will provide decent service to customers, thus making more $$$ through sales.

In general, the businesses being addressed regarding minimum wage discussion are retail and food industry, both with very slim profit margins.

As someone above already posted, a single person working for minimum wage is already above the poverty line. Indeed, if they are working a 40 hour week, not likely today, they wouldn't qualify for SNAP benefits.

IL 'minimum' wage is I believe today, $8.25. If one continues to work for most employers in the same position, they will be over $10 per hour in about 2.75 years. Many cap at $11.00, figuring one should move on or up by that time. Only those without skills or need stay longer.
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Low wage workers who produce the wealth and profits for a company asking for a fair days wage for fair days work are elites? What drugs are you on? Can you spell H-Y-P-O-C-R-I-T-E?
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_Labor_Standards_Act



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The Fair Labor Standards Act of 1938[1] (abbreviated as FLSA; also referred to as the Wages and Hours Bill[2]) is a federal statute of the United States. The FLSA introduced a maximum 44-hour seven-day workweek,[3] established a national minimum wage,[4] guaranteed "time-and-a-half" for overtime in certain jobs, and prohibited most employment of minors in "oppressive child labor", a term that is defined in the statute.[5][6] It applies to employees engaged in interstate commerce or employed by an enterprise engaged in commerce or in the production of goods for commerce,[7] unless the employer can claim an exemption from coverage.
 
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Disillusioned said:
We in the US believe that you get what you pay for.

Now as somebody who worked in a minimum wage job recently enough to know what little they ask, I'll tell you that 7.25 an hour is about the level of service you get from somebody you pay that much. They do the minimum to get by and not get shouted at and call it quits. They were able to train me to do that job in 8 hours, everything I needed to know. Now explain to me why they should be paid 15 dollars an hour for something a 17 year old kid can do with no prior training or skill.

Shoot, I don't think the enlisted troops in the military are paid that well and they have several weeks of training and get shot at.
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Those are good questions and I'll try to answer them for you. The first is that their labors go a long way towards producing the tremendous profits earned by those companies. What is wrong with asking for a more equitable distribution of those profits? Second, you're right, you get what you pay for, when you pay more you can have greater expectations of quality of service and productivity. Thirdly, the point isn't what YOU think ANYONE is worth. The point is, that in a free nation they have the human right to, as individuals and collectively, to negotiate with their employers for their conditions of employment.

So let me turn the tables on you Mr. "You get what you pay for". What the hell is wrong with that?

A rising tide lifts all ships.
 
evince said:
http://www.dol.govt.nz/er/starting/relationships/agreements/index.asp


Employment agreements

Good employment relationships begin with a good recruitment process that ensures everyone has clear expectations about the role, working conditions and employment rights.

A clearly written employment agreement can help reduce the risk of misunderstandings.

Every employee must have a written employment agreement. This can be either an individual agreement or a collective agreement. Collective employment agreements are negotiated in good faith between an employer and a registered union on behalf of their members. Employers must not unduly influence employees to join or not join a union.

From 1 July 2011, employers are required to retain a signed copy of the employment agreement or the current signed terms and conditions of employment. The employer must retain the “intended agreement” even if the employee has not signed it. Employees are entitled to a copy on request.

There are some provisions that must be included in employment agreements by law, and there are also a number of minimum conditions that must be met regardless of whether they are included in agreements. Employment law also provides a framework for negotiating additional entitlements.
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LOL, seriously? A bullshit link from New Zealand?

Where is the contract you said McDonald workers signed?

Just admit you lied.
 
guess what happens to your food at Micky Ds when you drive through the drive in with a republican bumper sticker?


think about how your life is impacted by your lack of support for your fellow Americans
 
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