What's good for the goose ...

[Taichiliberal]

The bigger question is WHY dont you guys care about Joe selling access? For decades. You all KNOW he is and has. Truth is,... its because he is YOUR CROOK so you simply dont give a fuck.

THE MAIN QUESTION is how MAGA minions simply regurgitate any and all speculation from the right wing media as bonafide truth & fact?

The OP is valid.....you are just trolling gain saying and deflection as if paid to do so.

 

[Taichiliberal]

Oh,....its coming. Unless he eats shit and steps down that is.

You didn't answer is question. If you're going to carry water for the yahoo GOP Congress & MAGA Trump supporters, at least try to be logical, factual and honest.

 

[Taichiliberal]

but we didn't start giving them all our jobs until the 90s

Wrong as usual. For your education:


The White House is only telling you half of the sad story of what happened to American jobs

https://www.businessinsider.com/what-happened-to-american-jobs-in-the-80s-2017-7

 

[Taichiliberal]

Plenty of evidence. Joke claims he never met with or had anything to do with Bagman's business dealings. Yet, there are lots of photos, including official government photos, of Joke meeting with Bagman's business partners and in some cases with his son standing there. Bagman's business partners say Joke was involved and on the take.

The only thing keeping this whole shitstorm of corruption from being investigated properly is that the DOJ and FBI are in on the fix.

Photo-ops or actually business discussions? If the latter, where's the evidence?

 

[Taichiliberal]

Then,if videos were proven authentic they would say........well, what happens between consenting man and goat in their own home is none of our business. Oh wait,...then they would call us racists and goatophobes for the big finish!

IF?

Once again, a MAGA troll tactic that pushes speculation, supposition and conjecture as fact.

The OP is a fair proposal....and exposes the BS you are so eager to defend.

 

[Taichiliberal]

why can't we have both?......

Ask Santos, ask Trump, ask deSantis, as Abbott, ask McConnell, ask Bobert, ask Green, ....hell ask all the GOP media stars in the last 6 years who have documented lies falling from their lips.

THEY are the ones currently on the hot seat, but bragging about controlling the Congress.

 

[Taichiliberal]

My bet is that given Hunter's history, he's the one that would be assfucked having to explain himself...

You're rather than just conceding the validity of the OP. Sad, but not unexpected.

 

[Monad Portal]

Wrong as usual. For your education:


The White House is only telling you half of the sad story of what happened to American jobs

https://www.businessinsider.com/what-happened-to-american-jobs-in-the-80s-2017-7

it's basically right.



your nitpicking on details makes you look stupid and unable to conquer the larger point:

globalization fanaticism is disastrous on many fronts.

1. it's a one way money suck out of so called "post-industrial" countries, for many reasons.

2. It's a national security idiocy stroke, as it makes a nation dependant on hostile foreign enemies. is it wise to give up your national supply chain with no thought of security concerns? our security state is evidently a treason state now. so go fuck yourselves and go suck more klaus schwab dick.

 

[Monad Portal]

IF?

Once again, a MAGA troll tactic that pushes speculation, supposition and conjecture as fact.

The OP is a fair proposal....and exposes the BS you are so eager to defend.

no isn't.

no it doesn't.

its dumb as balls.

 

[PostmodernProphet]

That's not what legal justice means. You lack any speck of rationality.

actually I wrote my graduate thesis on the philosophical meaning of justice.......it IS what legal justice means......balance.......before it was politicized to mean the opposite of what it originally meant, the word was retribution......literally, a return to what is right......

 

[PostmodernProphet]

You seem to prefer your version of reality to what the rest of the world experiences.

because your part of the world experiences absurd fantasies......

 

[Diesel]

Okay, but why are you trying to detour aways from the nepotism regarding the Kushners? Remember, the Kushners had cabinet/advisory positions while Dump was President. Slick and Hill were not in any office at the time frame you reference. I have no problem with investigations so long as they are relevant, pertinent and actually lead to something productive.

The OP simply puts it all in perspective.....you investigate one, you investigate all.

That's what mindless partisans do. You make a point about one side and they reply with a completely unrelated point about the other side. In Stone's case, he's stuck in the 1990s because that's when he stopped emotionally maturing.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

Photo-ops or actually business discussions? If the latter, where's the evidence?

This is just a version of Sorites paradox. It is an attempt to invalidate my argument by claiming it isn't precise enough. It doesn't matter if there's any evidence beyond the photos. The photos are enough to invalidate Biden's claim he never met with his son's business partners, associates, etc., and had nothing to do with them. That is clearly a LIE just by the photos alone. An investigation into those photos and Joke's relationship with the people in them would occur to find out what he actually did in totality with them.

That right now is being slow played or stonewalled by the DOJ and FBI, among other authorities that should be looking into it.

 

[Nordberg]

I bet Kushner would give a better explanation than Bagman, assuming Bagman shows up straight not stoned...

Easy explanation. Burisma offered him a job and he took it. He is a Yale grad, an Atty, and experienced in lobbying. He also has good connections. The job offer is easy to understand.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

Easy explanation. Burisma offered him a job and he took it. He is a Yale grad, an Atty, and experienced in lobbying. He also has good connections. The job offer is easy to understand.

He also has ZERO experience in the energy sector, wasn't expected to show up and do anything, had been cashiered from the US Navy for drug use, hadn't held any other jobs with any degree of success, and was still using drugs and had a very questionable lifestyle.

What company on the planet would hire someone like that for legitimate work reasons? Bagman was hired for one thing, and one thing only: His connection to the Vice President of the US and the in that would give Burisma to grease Bagman's daddy to do political favors for them--Like getting a certain Ukrainian prosecutor fired and replaced by a completely unqualified political hack to stop an investigation into their mass corrupt business dealings...

 

[NiftyNiblick]

Like it or not and all the partisan BS aside, the OP makes a significant point: corruption within the political system. If we're going to fry one, fry all .... and make th connections as to how it effects the populace economically and socially.

Corruption costs us pocket change as a nation.
It's bad policy that costs us trillions.

 

[Diesel]

actually I wrote my graduate thesis on the philosophical meaning of justice.......it IS what legal justice means......balance.......before it was politicized to mean the opposite of what it originally meant, the word was retribution......literally, a return to what is right......

Retribution and justice do not mean the same thing.

 

[PostmodernProphet]

Retribution and justice do not mean the same thing.

not since lib'ruls started pretending retribution meant revenge.....

 

[Taichiliberal]

Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
Like it or not and all the partisan BS aside, the OP makes a significant point: corruption within the political system. If we're going to fry one, fry all .... and make th connections as to how it effects the populace economically and socially.



Corruption costs us pocket change as a nation.
It's bad policy that costs us trillions.

Corruption and bad policy go hand in hand......has been LONG before you or I were born.

 

[Taichiliberal]

Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
Photo-ops or actually business discussions? If the latter, where's the evidence?

This is just a version of Sorites paradox. It is an attempt to invalidate my argument by claiming it isn't precise enough. It doesn't matter if there's any evidence beyond the photos. The photos are enough to invalidate Biden's claim he never met with his son's business partners, associates, etc., and had nothing to do with them. That is clearly a LIE just by the photos alone. An investigation into those photos and Joke's relationship with the people in them would occur to find out what he actually did in totality with them.

That right now is being slow played or stonewalled by the DOJ and FBI, among other authorities that should be looking into it.

translation: no evidence of the claim beyond a crap load of speculation, supposition and conjecture and belaboring a moot point. If such were applied to ALL the garbage that came out of the Trump administration, Jan. 6th and current business investigation, his flabby orange ass would be under the jail (by your "logic"). Carry on.