What's good for the goose ...

Quote Originally Posted by LurchAddams View Post
So, Hunter has some problems. Has nothing to do with Joe.
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that's like saying pizza has nothing to do with Pizza Hut.....Joe is what Hunter was selling......
 
T. A. Gardner said:
I bet Kushner would give a better explanation than Bagman, assuming Bagman shows up straight not stoned...
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What you say here is EXACTLY why the OP is dead on target! Rather than wasting time debating theory, we could get FACTS from the source themselves. Works for me.
 
Stone said:
No problem. But why stop with Trump ? Instead lets keep going and expose it all? Can you even imagine how Jaw dropping it will be when we get to the Clinton regime? :laugh:







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Nothing funny about this, chuckles. Like the OP said, give Biden and Kushner's the EXACT same grilling. As to what you suggest, I've got no problem giving everyone right up the Nixon era the 3rd degree. Fair is fair, and as they use to say, "LET IT ALL HANG OUT!"
 
PostmodernProphet said:
yes......why do you pretend you find it good for the goose after complaining for six years about ganders?.......
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You seem to prefer your version of reality to what the rest of the world experiences.

I rightly criticized Dump & company for their actions. I also criticized the DNC when needed. Too bad if you don't like it, but you sure as hell can't logically fault the criticism no matter how frequently you and your compadres tell each other the SOS.

The OP stands a valid point.
 
Taichiliberal said:
What you say here is EXACTLY why the OP is dead on target! Rather than wasting time debating theory, we could get FACTS from the source themselves. Works for me.
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My bet is that given Hunter's history, he's the one that would be assfucked having to explain himself...
 
Stone said:
We STILL dont care about Hunter either. We are just going to use him as a hammer to beat Joe over the head with until he steps down. All trails eventually lead back to Joe whether anyone likes it of not. He's been selling access for decades. BTW......His brothers are NEXT. ;)
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So right here you confess to being a MAGA troll unconcerned about facts and logic. The OP essentially exposes the sheer hypocrisy and near fascistic devotion to those who believe all things neocon/teabagger/MAGA.
 
NiftyNiblick said:
None of these so called incidents and scandals effect our lives very much, particularly in consideration of how much we talk about them.

We like or dislike these people based on whether or not they share our values socially and politically.
If they don't, then we find some near-totally irrelevant issue to complain about, but it's a waste of time.
If I don't like somebody's values, then I'll disparage them over their values if I speak of them at all.
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Like it or not and all the partisan BS aside, the OP makes a significant point: corruption within the political system. If we're going to fry one, fry all .... and make th connections as to how it effects the populace economically and socially.
 
Stone said:
Bill Clinton.........paid one million dollars for one hour speech For a Russian bank in Moscow while his bitchface wife was running against trump. Bitchface paid 500,000 for 45 minute speech for American investment banks while she was running against trump. Yep,........nothing odd going on there at all! :rolleyes:
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Okay, but why are you trying to detour aways from the nepotism regarding the Kushners? Remember, the Kushners had cabinet/advisory positions while Dump was President. Slick and Hill were not in any office at the time frame you reference. I have no problem with investigations so long as they are relevant, pertinent and actually lead to something productive.

The OP simply puts it all in perspective.....you investigate one, you investigate all.
 
Stone said:
Oh Walter.........:cool:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Webster_Hubbell

"After Clinton's inauguration, Hubbell became White House liaison to the United States Department of Justice,[5] arriving at Justice on January 20, 1993.[6] During the period before an Attorney General was approved, Hubbell worked as the assistant to the Attorney General,[7] but reported to Republican appointee, Acting Attorney General Stuart M. Gerson. Clinton considered Hubbell for the Attorney General position on January 30, 1993, after Zoë Baird's name was withdrawn, but Clinton nominated Janet Reno instead.[8]

Hubbell was formally nominated as Associate Attorney General on April 2, 1993,[9] and was immediately attacked for his ties to the Clintons.[citation needed] Hubbell's nomination was nonetheless quickly confirmed by the U.S. Senate and he served as Associate Attorney General until April 1994. He oversaw all the civil divisions of the U.S. Department of Justice, the Immigration and Naturalization Service, and was appointed by Janet Reno as the Chief Operating Officer of Department and its 100,000 employees and $10 billion budget.[10]

Resignation and conviction
During the Whitewater controversy, Hubbell was indicted for allegedly overbilling clients while in private practice. Hubbell had previously resigned as associate attorney general on April 14, 1994, to avoid controversy regarding his work at Justice and in hopes of reaching a resolution with the Rose Law Firm. In December 1994 Hubbell pleaded guilty to one count of wire fraud and one count of tax fraud and on June 28, 1995, Judge George Howard sentenced Hubbell to 21 months' imprisonment. As a convicted felon, Hubbell entered Federal Correctional Institution, Cumberland in August 1995, and was released from a halfway house in February 1997.[11]

In 1997, William Morrow & Co published Friends in High Places, Hubbell's autobiographical account of his rise in Arkansas politics and his time in the Clinton administration.[12]

Additional criminal charges
During the months after Hubbell's resignation, he entered into legal consulting contracts with several clients including the Indonesian Riady family and Revlon.[13] This activity became the focus of another Starr investigation while Hubbell served out his sentence. Despite years of investigation, and although Independent Counsel Starr alleged that Hubbell "did little or no work for the money paid by his consulting clients", Starr ultimately concluded there was insufficient evidence to prove that any legal consulting contract or payments were intended to influence Hubbell's cooperation with investigators in the Whitewater investigation.[11]

Starr and his prosecutors were convinced that Hubbell knew all the Clintons' secrets that were under investigation[citation needed] and that, if pressured enough, Hubbell would tell all. On April 30, 1998, Hubbell and his wife were indicted for conspiracy, tax evasion and mail fraud. Hubbell had, in the course of Starr's investigation, provided documents as part of an immunity agreement with the Independent Counsel about his consulting agreements. Despite this agreement, Starr used this information to obtain an indictment of Hubbell, his wife, his accountant and his tax lawyer.

District Judge James Robertson dismissed the charges against Hubbell and his wife on July 1, 1998, ruling that Independent Counsel Kenneth Starr had overstepped his authority in bringing the Hubbell indictment. Judge Robertson ruled that Starr had violated Hubbell's Fifth Amendment rights against self-incrimination by building a case that relied on materials collected under an immunity agreement with Hubbell.[14] Starr appealed to the Court of Appeals and Judge Robertson was affirmed. Starr then appealed to the United States Supreme Court. In an 8–1 decision (with Chief Justice William H. Rehnquist the lone dissenter), the Supreme Court also ruled in favor of Hubbell.[15]

On November 14, 1998, Starr obtained a third indictment, this time alleging that Hubbell had committed fraud and given false testimony to the House Banking Committee and federal banking regulators.[16] On June 30, 1999, the day Starr was required to step down as Independent Counsel, Hubbell entered into a plea agreement resolving the indictments. Hubbell pleaded guilty to one charge of failing to disclose a potential conflict of interest from ten years earlier. He was sentenced to one year of probation; in exchange, the prosecutor dropped charges against Hubbell's wife, lawyer, and accountant, and Starr agreed not to bring further charges against him. "
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And how does all this change the validity of the OP? Remember, the MAGA GOP made it their business to hype up Hunter Biden....that they won't don't apply the same scrutiny to the Kushner situation is hypocrisy. Period.
 
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