The Debt Limit Debate

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I'm glad that a statement made 7 years ago by the same man is comparable to a statement made over 200 years ago. Of course people change; most of us grow mentally; mature.

and whether you agree or not, the view from the Oval Office is a lot different than the one from the Senate chamber.
 
I'm glad that a statement made 7 years ago by the same man is comparable to a statement made over 200 years ago. Of course people change; most of us grow mentally; mature.

You shouldn't be glad; comparing an issue about slavery 200 years ago to a modern debate about the debt limit is painfully stupid and dimwitted. But this is the type of argument you are going to see from the dimwits on the left as they desperately try to deflect away from the painful arrogance and hypocrisy of this most inexperienced, inept President to ever sit in the White House.
 
you do realize that time changes things RIGHT OP?

The only thing that has changed dimwit, is that the arrogant buffoon you voted for went from being a hyper partisan buffoonish Senator to a hyper partisan buffoonish President who continually sticks his foot in his mouth based on his buffoon like hyper partisan rhetoric and the reality that he has taken fiscal irresponsible spending to the heights of irresponsibility.

But then you're a low information dimwit who swills way too much DNC koolaid and wallows in blissful hypocrisy and denial.
 
so we should always hold presidents to the statements they made as candidates for the office? Is that your stance?
 
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and whether you agree or not, the view from the Oval Office is a lot different than the one from the Senate chamber.

Wrong; but then you are a hyper partisan dimwit and being wrong is a state of mind for you.

The only thing that has changed is that Senator Obama became President Obama thanks to gullible low information voters. The fact that he continually flip flops and lies in order to further his hyper partisan objectives is merely lost on dimwits.

The debate today is as relevant as it was in 2006. Debt has doubled during Obamas four and a half years from the eight years of Bush's Presidency; even after Barrack claims we are no longer in Iraq and drawing down troop lives in Afghanistan. The fiscally irresponsibile spending of trillions in deficit spending evidenced since Democrats took over Congress in 2007 has been a trademark of this President. The malaise in this economy a trademark of his Policies. Yet he wants dimwitted fools like you to think this about Republicans.

You're a testament to the willful ignorance of the left in this country who does and says anything regardless of the truth, the facts or honest to further a failed political agenda.
 
so we should always hold presidents to the statements they made as candidates for the office? Is that your stance?

No dimwit, my stance is that if you are going to claim that one should not raise the debt limit because it is a failure of leadership and fiscally irresponsible, you should stand firmly behind those views whether you are a Senator, a Congressperson, a President or a citizen.

You should not constantly change your positions based purely on nakedly partisan political considerations. But then, you're a dimwit who thinks this is just fine as long as it is YOUR guy in the Whitehouse.
 
No dimwit, my stance is that if you are going to claim that one should not raise the debt limit because it is a failure of leadership and fiscally irresponsible, you should stand firmly behind those views whether you are a Senator, a Congressperson, a President or a citizen.

You should not constantly change your positions based purely on nakedly partisan political considerations. But then, you're a dimwit who thinks this is just fine as long as it is YOUR guy in the Whitehouse.

so you ARE saying that once a person says something, they should not change their opinion on that subject? Lincoln on slavery... Bush on nation building... once spoken, the position is locked in stone and time and perspective cannot be allowed to alter it.
 
economic malaise? have you checked the Dow recently?

If you think the Dow is representative of the economy; you just might be a clueless low information dimwit.

Have you looked at labor participation rates? Have you looked at the real unemployment rate? Have you looked at the massive increase of the wealth gap as a result of this run up of the Dow thanks to irresponsible fed policies? Have you looked at the massive increase in fuel costs and food costs while wages decline or are stagnant?

Only a brain dead dimwit can believe that this economy is in recovery or headed in the right direction thanks to the dimwitted economic views of this President.
 
so you ARE saying that once a person says something, they should not change their opinion on that subject? Lincoln on slavery... Bush on nation building... once spoken, the position is locked in stone and time and perspective cannot be allowed to alter it.

Are you really so dense that you cannot comprehend what I have already stated and feel compelled to try to drag the debate into a never ending circle of stupidity in a vain effort to defend the hypocrisy and buffoonery of this President.

Do you think that the claims Obama made in 2006 no longer apply? How and why?
 
the economy certainly has not "recovered", but it is moving positively away from the Bush recession. That's a fact.
 
Are you really so dense that you cannot comprehend what I have already stated and feel compelled to try to drag the debate into a never ending circle of stupidity in a vain effort to defend the hypocrisy and buffoonery of this President.

Do you think that the claims Obama made in 2006 no longer apply? How and why?

like I said before... the view from the Oval Office is different than from the Senate chamber. Dubya figured that out vis a vis nation building and not one republican batted an eye.

and..as an aside... why not try dialing back the gratuitous personal insults?
 
so you ARE saying that once a person says something, they should not change their opinion on that subject? Lincoln on slavery... Bush on nation building... once spoken, the position is locked in stone and time and perspective cannot be allowed to alter it.

By the way dimwit; this debate isn't about slavery or the false claim of nation building, it is about the reckless fiscal irresponsibility of continually raising the debt limit while not having an honest debate about how to prevent it and the causes of it. Try to stay on topic and trying to deflect it because you know this President is a painful embarrassment.

It is about how Senator Obama got it right when he chose to vote against it, but now flip flops when he is the one asking for a unilateral increase without debate.

But again, you're a dimwit, how can I expect you to get anything beyond your brain dead blind hyper partisan blinders.
 
the economy certainly has not "recovered", but it is moving positively away from the Bush recession. That's a fact.

Wrong; it is moving in the wrong direction and we ate witnessing another massive bubble being created by the Fed which is creating a bubble in the stock markets thanks to the same irresponsible Fed policy that caused the mortgage market implosion.

But then, you're a dimwit devoted to parroting the empty headed talking points of the DNC.
 
By the way dimwit; this debate isn't about slavery or the false claim of nation building, it is about the reckless fiscal irresponsibility of continually raising the debt limit while not having an honest debate about how to prevent it and the causes of it. Try to stay on topic and trying to deflect it because you know this President is a painful embarrassment.

It is about how Senator Obama got it right when he chose to vote against it, but now flip flops when he is the one asking for a unilateral increase without debate.

But again, you're a dimwit, how can I expect you to get anything beyond your brain dead blind hyper partisan blinders.

because you agree with his first vote, you say he got it right. I disagreed with him then... I agree with him now. That's the difference. If he had "flip flopped" from supporting the extension then to not supporting it today, you'd be praising his change in opinion. and you call ME hyper partisan" lol
 
like I said before... the view from the Oval Office is different than from the Senate chamber. Dubya figured that out vis a vis nation building and not one republican batted an eye.

and..as an aside... why not try dialing back the gratuitous personal insults?

Calling you a dimwit is not a personal insult; it is an accurate adjective of your braun dead talking points and dishonest efforts to drag threads off topic with your disingenuous nonsense to avoid addressing the facts.

George Bush was never inconsistent in his rhetoric even when he was a business man. George Bush never impugned or blamed his predecessors for the issues he had to contend as President and he was never the inexperienced inconsustent hyper partisan hack Obama is.

But if you want to debate Bush, start another thread; don't attempt to dishonestly drag this thread off topic to defend the indefensible hackers this buffoon of a President engages in just because you're a brain dead gullible fool.
 
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