So who was right on the Iraq War? Liberals vs. Conservatives.

TTQ64 said:
Nah, you just don't like hearing the truth.

You are not alone, most on the right don't like hearing the truth.

It's a fact. Every time Iraq is brought up, so is Hilary.

As if she was a equal partner in his illegal invasion.

His type never takes responsibility for his actions and lots Americans are ok with that .
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TTQ64 said:
So I was correct.

She followed the right wings lead on war. Just as her husband did on crime.

Two issues instituted, proposed and insisted upon by the racist right.
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Well there's also things said about Saddam by her husband while he was in office so she was consistent with his rhetoric. Hillary has always been hawkish unless you'd like to argue otherwise.
 
cawacko said:
Well there's also things said about Saddam by her husband while he was in office so she was consistent with his rhetoric. Hillary has always been hawkish unless you'd like to argue otherwise.
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There is no argument as far as I'm concerned.

Every time we have gone to war, it's been a white man at the helm......from the right.

When some one else actually leads us into war, we'll discuss.

Otherwise, we'd be distorting history as if Hilary was taking or took us to war.
 
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http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=99591469
What I am opposed to is the attempt by political hacks like Karl Rove to distract us from a rise in the uninsured, a rise in the poverty rate, a drop in the median income — to distract us from corporate scandals and a stock market that has just gone through the worst month since the Great Depression. That's what I'm opposed to. A dumb war. A rash war. A war based not on reason but on passion, not on principle but on politics. Now let me be clear — I suffer no illusions about Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal man. A ruthless man. A man who butchers his own people to secure his own power. He has repeatedly defied UN resolutions, thwarted UN inspection teams, developed chemical and biological weapons, and coveted nuclear capacity. He's a bad guy. The world, and the Iraqi people, would be better off without him.

But I also know that Saddam poses no imminent and direct threat to the United States or to his neighbors, that the Iraqi economy is in shambles, that the Iraqi military a fraction of its former strength, and that in concert with the international community he can be contained until, in the way of all petty dictators, he falls away into the dustbin of history. I know that even a successful war against Iraq will require a U.S. occupation of undetermined length, at undetermined cost, with undetermined consequences. I know that an invasion of Iraq without a clear rationale and without strong international support will only fan the flames of the Middle East, and encourage the worst, rather than best, impulses of the Arab world, and strengthen the recruitment arm of al-Qaida. I am not opposed to all wars. I'm opposed to dumb wars.
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Obama, a center-left moderate, against the war.
 
Amadeus said:
I said name some liberals. The Clintons have always been center-right moderates until Sanders came along. The Obama is center-left moderate, and he was against the war. I see effectively zero liberals in that list.

Do you even know what a liberal is?
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And I did. That you don't acknowledge them as Liberals is your problem. You should get your eyes checked if you don't "see" any. Better yet, pull your head out of the Obama's black ass. It's blurring your vision.
 
CFM said:
And I did. That you don't acknowledge them as Liberals is your problem. You should get your eyes checked if you don't "see" any. Better yet, pull your head out of the Obama's black ass. It's blurring your vision.
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Sorry, anyone who disagrees with you or sees you as a deplorable person is not a liberal. They're just smart.

Obama himself said that he was not a particularly progressive president. And he wasn't.
 
TTQ64 said:
Nah, you just don't like hearing the truth.

You are not alone, most on the right don't like hearing the truth.

It's a fact. Every time Iraq is brought up, so is Hilary.

As if she was a equal partner in his illegal invasion.

His type never takes responsibility for his actions and lots Americans are ok with that .
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TTQ64 said:
There is no argument as far as I'm concerned.

Every time we have gone to war, it's been a white man at the helm......from the right.

When some one else actually leads us into war, we'll discuss.

Otherwise, we'd be distorting history as if Hilary was taking or took us to war.
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Woodrow Wilson, FDR & LBJ are all men of the right? Ok.

And yes, as hard you try to deny it, Hillary voted for Iraq War approval
 
cawacko said:
You and other anti Iraq War folks still voted for President for a person who voted for the Iraq War. How can your party nominate someone who backed something so catastrophically wrong? And did her time as S.O.S. make it look like she really learned anything from that vote?
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it's much more then Iraq.
She was chief US advocate and international organizer of the Libyan War 2011 that created a failed terrorist state.

She organized "Friends of Syria" - garnishing some regional money and support to overthrow Assad-
leaving Assad just weak enough that he survives, but could not defeat the Islamic jihadist.

Most of all she refuses to recant her role in Libya, lying that it was "smart power"
 
Amadeus said:
I said name some liberals. The Clintons have always been center-right moderates until Sanders came along. Obama is a center-left moderate, and he was against the war. I see effectively zero liberals in that list.

Do you even know what a liberal is?
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Unfortunately, President Obama had push back from those center-right dems and he wasn't able to really propose more progressive legislation. Once we get right of those center-right dems we can move a more progressive agenda.
 
Amadeus said:
Sorry, anyone who disagrees with you or sees you as a deplorable person is not a liberal. They're just smart.

Obama himself said that he was not a particularly progressive president. And he wasn't.
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Obama said a lot of things that were untrue yet because he said it, you automatically believe it. Pucker up, NL.
 
Bill said:
That was only a suitcase IMHO
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lol..my all time favorite political cartoon!
 
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