So who was right on the Iraq War? Liberals vs. Conservatives.

evince said:
HILARY WON THE ELECTION


when you make these claims you have to incorporate ALL THE INFORMATION


Hillay won the peoples support


the republicans gerrymandered , voter IDed and sucked russian cock to win.


you are trashing Hillary for not winning while ignoring she did win


GET IT
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227 ELECTORAL VOTES doesn't win the election. 304 does.
 
Cypress said:
So your assertion is that Hillary still believes the Iraq War was a great idea, and she is just faking people out into thinking otherwise?

Sorry if I don't believe you.

I voted for Sanders in the primary, so my conscience is clear.
I have a history and a record of cutting slack to people of both parties, who voted for the Iraq war but later expressed regret and contrition. Walter Jones (R-NC) for example.


Now, have you ever admitted that Desh was on the right side of history concerning the Iraq War, while you were catastrophically wrong? It is a very simple question, that should take two seconds to answer.
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clear?

you helped trump
 
TTQ64 said:
Everyone on the right
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"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members ... It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
-- Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002
 
evince said:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Popul...d_States_on_the_invasion_of_Iraq#October_2002


the main stream media helped the bush team fuck us BTW







March 2003[edit]
Days before the March 20 invasion, a USA TODAY/CNN/Gallup Poll found support for the war was related to UN approval. Nearly six in 10 said they were ready for such an invasion "in the next week or two." But that support dropped off if the U.N. backing was not first obtained. If the U.N. Security Council were to reject a resolution paving the way for military action, 54% of Americans favored a U.S. invasion. And if the Bush administration did not seek a final Security Council vote, support for a war dropped to 47%.[1]
An ABC News/Washington Post poll taken after the beginning of the war showed a 62% support for the war, lower than the 79% in favor at the beginning of the Persian Gulf War.[2]
May 2003[edit]
A Gallup poll made on behalf of CNN and USA Today concluded that 89% of Americans thought the Iraq War was justified, with or without conclusive evidence of illegal weapons. 19% thought weapons were needed to justify the war.[9]
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The media also gave us dump.

There is no such thing as liberal media.
 
Cypress said:
So your assertion is that Hillary still believes the Iraq War was a great idea, and she is just faking people out into thinking otherwise?

Sorry if I don't believe you.

I voted for Sanders in the primary, so my conscience is clear.
I have a history and a record of cutting slack to people of both parties, who voted for the Iraq war but later expressed regret and contrition. Walter Jones (R-NC) for example.


Now, have you ever admitted that Desh was on the right side of history concerning the Iraq War, while you were catastrophically wrong? It is a very simple question, that should take two seconds to answer.
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You and other anti Iraq War folks still voted for President for a person who voted for the Iraq War. How can your party nominate someone who backed something so catastrophically wrong? And did her time as S.O.S. make it look like she really learned anything from that vote?
 
Amadeus said:
Before anyone tries to disqualify the question or divide it into 'neocon vs. conservatives', remember that Bush had like 90% or higher among conservatives, and had Fox News pulling for him. The same Fox News then as now, minus a few sexual harassers.

Lets also explain the Democratic support for the war. There was some Democratic support, which was gained by feeding them cooked intel... and only from centrists and center-right moderates. Remember, Ann Coulter famously said that Hillary Clinton was more conservative than McCain.


The liberal base was always vehemently against the Iraq war. We were called unpatriotic and worse, to the point of having to rename French Fries as 'Freedom Fries'.

Which side was right, all these years later?
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I don't agree......... THere were & still are many self-proclaimed "libs" that supported the unprovoked invasion of Iraq......

A big part of the problem is ppl self-identifying as lib, this or that, & they are not IMHO.......

They, & by they I mean the admin, both parties & the media did a damn good job of stirring things up & rattling the sabers............
 
Cypress said:
So your assertion is that Hillary still believes the Iraq War was a great idea, and she is just faking people out into thinking otherwise?

Sorry if I don't believe you.

I voted for Sanders in the primary, so my conscience is clear.
I have a history and a record of cutting slack to people of both parties, who voted for the Iraq war but later expressed regret and contrition. Walter Jones (R-NC) for example.


Now, have you ever admitted that Desh was on the right side of history concerning the Iraq War, while you were catastrophically wrong? It is a very simple question, that should take two seconds to answer.
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At the end of the day Hillary has always been more hawkish and I think she voted to support the war because 1) it was for the most part popular with the people at the time and 2) she knew she wanted to run for President and she didn't want to vote against it and have the war go well and have to be on the campaign trail answering questions about why she supported leaving Saddam in charge.

Once it was clear the war wasn't going well she knew she was f'd among her liberal base.
 
Bill said:
I don't agree......... THere were & still are many self-proclaimed "libs" that supported the unprovoked invasion of Iraq......

A big part of the problem is ppl self-identifying as lib, this or that, & they are not IMHO.......

They, & by they I mean the admin, both parties & the media did a damn good job of stirring things up & rattling the sabers............
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Bingo!

There are a lot of people who do this.
 
cawacko said:
At the end of the day Hillary has always been more hawkish and I think she voted to support the war because 1) it was for the most part popular with the people at the time and 2) she knew she wanted to run for President and she didn't want to vote against it and have the war go well and have to be on the campaign trail answering questions about why she supported leaving Saddam in charge.

Once it was clear the war wasn't going well she knew she was f'd among her liberal base.
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That was only a suitcase IMHO
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cawacko said:
Unfortunately for you any political nuance is lost so this is above your head
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Nah, you just don't like hearing the truth.

You are not alone, most on the right don't like hearing the truth.

It's a fact. Every time Iraq is brought up, so is Hilary.

As if she was a equal partner in his illegal invasion.

His type never takes responsibility for his actions and lots Americans are ok with that .
 
TTQ64 said:
Nope.

Because every time bush's disaster is brought up, her name is too.
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"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members ... It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
-- Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002
 
TTQ64 said:
Nah, you just don't like hearing the truth.

You are not alone, most on the right don't like hearing the truth.

It's a fact. Every time Iraq is brought up, so is Hilary.

As if she was a equal partner in his illegal invasion.

His type never takes responsibility for his actions and lots Americans are ok with that .
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"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members ... It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
-- Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

Why is it a disaster for Bush but not for Hillary if she said the same things you lefties consider a lie when Bush said it?
 
TTQ64 said:
Nah, you just don't like hearing the truth.

You are not alone, most on the right don't like hearing the truth.

It's a fact. Every time Iraq is brought up, so is Hilary.

As if she was a equal partner in his illegal invasion.

His type never takes responsibility for his actions and lots Americans are ok with that .
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Didn't read the OP did you or the discussion taking place within the thread
 
cawacko said:
At the end of the day Hillary has always been more hawkish and I think she voted to support the war because 1) it was for the most part popular with the people at the time and 2) she knew she wanted to run for President and she didn't want to vote against it and have the war go well and have to be on the campaign trail answering questions about why she supported leaving Saddam in charge.

Once it was clear the war wasn't going well she knew she was f'd among her liberal base.
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So I was correct.

She followed the right wings lead on war. Just as her husband did on crime.

Two issues instituted, proposed and insisted upon by the racist right.
 
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