Shocking book reveals Ghaddafi's sexual abuse of schoolgirls and boys

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I do believe that there are times when we should get involved in conflicts that basically are not our business. When it is clear that we can save lives, make life better for a large number of people, and we can do it with very little risk to innocent life.

Is that what happened in Iraq?

Is that what happened in Libya?

How about NO to both.

What we did in both countries was an atrocity, and both countries are still paying for our corporate-fed evil..
 
‘Violent chaos’: Libya in deep crisis 2 years since rebels took over
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“We do not feel the taste of happiness, security and stability,” a resident of Tripoli is cited as saying by Libya Herald, “nor did we have any benefit from the government. People are now feeling insecure and live in fear because of killings that are being witnessed all over Libya.”

“I am not sure that it will be right to assume that there is a government in Libya. There is no army, no police, armed militias are in control. There is violent chaos,” Yehudit Ronen, professor of political science at Bar Ilan University, told RT.

Human Rights Watch (HRW) says a wave of assassinations has killed dozens of politicians, activists, judges and members of security agencies.

“All we hear is very troublesome, because we hear about clandestine detention centers, detention centers that are run by militias that are not accountable to anybody,” Juan Mendez, UN rapporteur on torture told RT.

Meanwhile, work at Libya's oilfields and ports have been regularly paralyzed because of sporadic strikes by security guards

"Libya has lost $1.6 billion in oil sales since July 25 until today," Oil Minister Abdelbari al-Arusi was cited by Reuters on August 16.

Libya's Prime Minister Ali Zeidan even promised to use military force to prevent striking at the country's main ports. Libya’s two main crude oil terminals have however remained shut, which means the country’s economic recovery after the 2011 unrest has been derailed.

“Libya has become AQIM’s [Al-Qaeda in the Lands of the Islamic Maghreb] headquarters,” the intelligence source was cited as saying.

Abayomi Azikiwe, editor of the Pan-Africa Newswire, predicts that the instability in the post-Gaddafi Libya will only get worse.

“This kind of revolution has been detrimental to the wellbeing of the Libyan people. What we’ve seen over the last few years is a total disruption of Libyan society. There’s no plan for the national restoration of Libya. Many of the key political players involved in an attempt to run Libya right now are divided over tribal, regional as well as political levels,” Azikiwe told RT.

“And until the general national council government there reigns in the malicious and tries to bring about some type of national reconciliation process, the economic decline and consequently the social instability will intensify.”

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Obama is no fucking different than George Bush on war.

Just a fucking puppet.
 
USF fixated on another posters personal life. The guy just needs to go away. He has a sickness.

I have had enough run ins with USF in the past, we just leave each other alone for the most part these days. Howey sent me an unsolicited email fishing for gossip about Yurt. He then proceeded to broadcast that all the board and even then managed to get it factually wrong. So as far as Howey is concerned I really couldn't care less if anybody wants to rubbish him.
 
Well, if Susan Rice said it, it must not be true.

Actually the Daily Mail said it first, in April 2011.

"Details also emerged yesterday of gang rape being used by Gaddafi’s soldiers, many of them African mercenaries supplied with Viagra by the Libyan leader’s officials.

Most victims have been too afraid of the stigma facing them and their families to talk. But a woman called Leila, 28, said she was going public because ‘unbelievable crimes’ were being committed.
 
RT again BAC?

Post your source that says Libya has become a success story, a wonderful place to live, and much better for the Libyan people than before Obama and NATO came bombing it back into the stone ages against their wishes .. and I can post a 1000 article of undeniable truth .. something you don't really want to talk about.

I say this with all due respect brother, but surely you supported the invasion of Iraq.
 
Actually the Daily Mail said it first, in April 2011.

"Details also emerged yesterday of gang rape being used by Gaddafi’s soldiers, many of them African mercenaries supplied with Viagra by the Libyan leader’s officials.

Most victims have been too afraid of the stigma facing them and their families to talk. But a woman called Leila, 28, said she was going public because ‘unbelievable crimes’ were being committed.

When was it proven to be true?
 
Post your source that says Libya has become a success story, a wonderful place to live, and much better for the Libyan people than before Obama and NATO came bombing it back into the stone ages against their wishes .. and I can post a 1000 article of undeniable truth .. something you don't really want to talk about.

I say this with all due respect brother, but surely you supported the invasion of Iraq.

Isn't Benghazi in Libya?
 
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Post your source that says Libya has become a success story, a wonderful place to live, and much better for the Libyan people than before Obama and NATO came bombing it back into the stone ages against their wishes .. and I can post a 1000 article of undeniable truth .. something you don't really want to talk about.

I say this with all due respect brother, but surely you supported the invasion of Iraq.

No, I did not support the invasion of Iraq. The people of Iraq didn't want us there.
 
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