Shocking book reveals Ghaddafi's sexual abuse of schoolgirls and boys

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Aoxomoxoa said:
  • Gaddafi chose schoolgirls and kept them as sex slaves, book claims
  • French journalist Annick Cojean's investigation includes story of 'Soraya' who says she was locked up for five years and repeatedly raped
  • Says male guards and boys were also raped by Muammar Gaddafi
  • Book already a bestseller in French and now translated into English

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Maybe BAC can defend his hero and tell us how much the Libyan people loved him. Oh and don't forget the Man Made River.
 
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I've seen it, no corroboration, it's a "first person story", reads ( and looks ) like a Harlequin romance, this is about the Guard.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amazonian_Guard
Incidents

In 1998, one of Gaddafi's female bodyguards was killed and seven others were wounded when Islamic fundamentalists in Libya ambushed Gaddafi's motorcade. It was claimed that the dead guard, Aisha, was Gaddafi's favourite and threw herself across Gaddafi's body to stop the bullets.

In November 2006, as Gaddafi arrived at Abuja airport, Nigeria, with a 200-strong troop of heavily armed bodyguards, a diplomatic incident was caused as security officials tried to disarm them. Gaddafi furiously walked away, gesturing that he intended to cover the 40 km journey to the capital on foot, and could only be persuaded to yield after intervention by Nigerian president Olusegun Obasanjo, who by chance happened to be at the airport.

During the Libyan civil war, many were "hunted down" in retaliation of their role in executing rebel soldiers.

Abuse claims
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there was also a lot of crap from Susan Rice about the " Viagra Libya Rape"

http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Back...bya-Viagra-rape-claims.-But-war-crimes-Plenty

War propaganda

Rape has undoubtedly been carried out by Qaddafi's troops in this war – judging by the history of conflict across the globe.

But war is filled with propaganda and outrageous claims made in the best of faith by stressed populations who, driven by fear and anxiety, readily believe the worst of those on the other side of the conflict.
Rumors take on a life of their own, and the claim that Qaddafi was ordering mass rape, with the sinister Viagra detail, was almost tailor-made to capture the imagination of a frightened public.

In the case of a man like Qaddafi, his violent reputation proceeds him, making it easier to believe the worst as rebels and NATO members continue to maintain support for the uprising


In the latter days of the Libyan civil war, accusations emerged from five members of the Amazonian Guard of rape and other abuse by the upper echelons of the Gaddafi government, which typically ranged from Gaddafi himself, to his sons, to high officials.
Some Amazonian Guards have also claimed that they were forced to execute rebels or be killed themselves.
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all this said Gaddafi WAS a dictator -what has to be understood is womne played paramount roles in that society - even judges.

Compare that to the ever dysfunctional Libya of today, with Shari -what do you think was a better situation for women?

The country is in chaos - continues to be so, the Bengazi jailbreak, various AQ types roaming, and the Libyan weapons showing up in Syria

( where i think the CIA annex was a transit point before lst years killing of Amb. Stevens and Co.
-but no proof of that)
Also the petro$$ were in the name of the People of Libya -not anymore. Also Gaddafi had guarantted houising -at least in the cities.

It's So easy to point to this and that abuse ( and I don't beleive this first hand account), but the society as a whole has to be lookes at during Gaddfia, and post-Gaddafi.

I vote during Gadafi, as post_gaddafi is a horrid continual mess
 
Aoxomoxoa said:
  • Gaddafi chose schoolgirls and kept them as sex slaves, book claims
  • French journalist Annick Cojean's investigation includes story of 'Soraya' who says she was locked up for five years and repeatedly raped
  • Says male guards and boys were also raped by Muammar Gaddafi
  • Book already a bestseller in French and now translated into English

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An article from France 24 about the book Ghaddafi's Harem.

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http://www.france24.com/en/20120920...ean-le-monde-sexual-slavery-harem-abuse-women
 
Mark Almond, an international relations professor at Turkey’s Bilkent University, says the violence is largely to do with the country’s chaotic state, as well as a power struggle regarding who should control the country’s oil and gas industry.

RT: The UK issued a warning to British nationals back in January, advising them to stay away from Benghazi. It’s now withdrawing its staff. Why are tensions on the rise now, as opposed to what was happening in January? What’s changed?


Mark Almond: I think there has just been a constant level of trouble. Partly what we’re seeing are deep divisions between Libyan revolutionaries who Britain and other NATO countries supported. There’s a power struggle over who should control the Libyan state and particularly the country’s oil and gas resources.


Effectively, there’s a battle between the roles of the young men who do the fighting and the older people - some of whom emigrated from Libya in the years of Gaddafi’s rule and some who changed sides from Gaddafi quite recently. And there’s a real struggle over who should be running the central government, the regional government, and whose finger should be in the oil and gas pie.


RT: There was a recent car bomb attack on the French embassy, one American ambassador was killed. Militias are blocking access to embassies. What’s the international community doing to curb these incidents?


MA: Well this is basically a dilemma they can’t really resolve. After all, by bombing Libya, they helped to create a situation where armed groups came to power and certainly have local domination. And there are of course groups that may be welcoming NATO bombers but are in fact quite serious anti-Western Muslim fundamentalist groups. So they don’t regard necessarily the continued presence of western embassies, the British, French, or American ones, as something that they’d like to see in a liberated - as they would see it - Libya.


There’s also the problem that perhaps various promises were made to people who NATO needed at the time, who feel they’ve been cheated a bit. This is one of the suspicions about the fate of American Ambassador Chris Stevens - that he had been dealing with the armed groups, that he was probably also helping to facilitate support for Syrian rebels and somehow or another he got mixed up with the wrong crew.


RT: It appears a lot of the violence has been focused on police stations and foreigners. Why is that?


MA: Well of course insofar as any kind of law and order can be restored, you’d have to have some form of police. So those people who don’t like being put under control are very angry about that. And foreigners, too, are seen as being the people who are pushing particular Libyans into positions of power and influence, including in the oil and gas industry. Remember we’re talking about a country whose economy is overwhelmingly dependent upon export products so there’s an enormous amount of corruption and competition regarding who should get hold of those assets inside Libya and, I’m afraid, outside Libya.


RT: Just two years ago, the UK lobbied for military intervention in Libya. Was that a good decision?


MA: I think it was a terrible decision. I’m afraid if Colonel Gaddafi had suppressed the opposition in March 2011, possibly hundreds of people would have died. Perhaps as many as 30,000 have died since, and the country is in a deep state of disorder and uncertainty. Life for most Libyans is worse than it was under Colonel Gaddafi. And of course Gaddafi’s regime was supposed by the Western countries to be the bad regime. Anything must be better, we were told. But now we see that it’s not so clear.

http://rt.com/op-edge/withdraw-staff-libya-gaddafi-158/

Using RT as a source because it is difficult to find a compact western source
- little is critical in the west about "gaddafi must go" -this is an interview -not the usual RT Propoganda
 
annata said:
you can do better then this..(having seen your postings) if you want to go after Gaddafi, better not to use pulp fiction
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Thank you.

I know mentioning the condition that Libya is in now and the dismal prospects for a better life that Libyan women now face that Gaddafi is gone is way over his head.

:0) So I won't mention it.
 
blackascoal said:
Thank you.

I know mentioning the condition that Libya is in now and the dismal prospects for a better life that Libyan women now face that Gaddafi is gone is way over his head.

:0) So I won't mention it.
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Yeh Pol Pot was much misunderstood as well. Apparently you have a real penchant for despots.
 
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annata said:
Mark Almond, an international relations professor at Turkey’s Bilkent University, says the violence is largely to do with the country’s chaotic state, as well as a power struggle regarding who should control the country’s oil and gas industry.

RT: The UK issued a warning to British nationals back in January, advising them to stay away from Benghazi. It’s now withdrawing its staff. Why are tensions on the rise now, as opposed to what was happening in January? What’s changed?


Mark Almond: I think there has just been a constant level of trouble. Partly what we’re seeing are deep divisions between Libyan revolutionaries who Britain and other NATO countries supported. There’s a power struggle over who should control the Libyan state and particularly the country’s oil and gas resources.


Effectively, there’s a battle between the roles of the young men who do the fighting and the older people - some of whom emigrated from Libya in the years of Gaddafi’s rule and some who changed sides from Gaddafi quite recently. And there’s a real struggle over who should be running the central government, the regional government, and whose finger should be in the oil and gas pie.


RT: There was a recent car bomb attack on the French embassy, one American ambassador was killed. Militias are blocking access to embassies. What’s the international community doing to curb these incidents?


MA: Well this is basically a dilemma they can’t really resolve. After all, by bombing Libya, they helped to create a situation where armed groups came to power and certainly have local domination. And there are of course groups that may be welcoming NATO bombers but are in fact quite serious anti-Western Muslim fundamentalist groups. So they don’t regard necessarily the continued presence of western embassies, the British, French, or American ones, as something that they’d like to see in a liberated - as they would see it - Libya.


There’s also the problem that perhaps various promises were made to people who NATO needed at the time, who feel they’ve been cheated a bit. This is one of the suspicions about the fate of American Ambassador Chris Stevens - that he had been dealing with the armed groups, that he was probably also helping to facilitate support for Syrian rebels and somehow or another he got mixed up with the wrong crew.


RT: It appears a lot of the violence has been focused on police stations and foreigners. Why is that?


MA: Well of course insofar as any kind of law and order can be restored, you’d have to have some form of police. So those people who don’t like being put under control are very angry about that. And foreigners, too, are seen as being the people who are pushing particular Libyans into positions of power and influence, including in the oil and gas industry. Remember we’re talking about a country whose economy is overwhelmingly dependent upon export products so there’s an enormous amount of corruption and competition regarding who should get hold of those assets inside Libya and, I’m afraid, outside Libya.


RT: Just two years ago, the UK lobbied for military intervention in Libya. Was that a good decision?


MA: I think it was a terrible decision. I’m afraid if Colonel Gaddafi had suppressed the opposition in March 2011, possibly hundreds of people would have died. Perhaps as many as 30,000 have died since, and the country is in a deep state of disorder and uncertainty. Life for most Libyans is worse than it was under Colonel Gaddafi. And of course Gaddafi’s regime was supposed by the Western countries to be the bad regime. Anything must be better, we were told. But now we see that it’s not so clear.

http://rt.com/op-edge/withdraw-staff-libya-gaddafi-158/

Using RT as a source because it is difficult to find a compact western source
- little is critical in the west about "gaddafi must go" -this is an interview -not the usual RT Propoganda
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Libya will sort itself out, Ghaddafi's time had come and I don't agree with the hundreds figure mentioned. He would have instigated a wholesale bloodbath in the East.
 
Aoxomoxoa said:
Yeh Pol Pot was much misunderstood as well. Apparently you have a real penchant for despots.
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Have you EVER read me to say ANYTHING about Pol Pot .. or are you just pulling that out of your ass because you can't respond to the truth about the horrors that everyday Libyans now endure thanks to the invasion of the west that you celebrate?

YOU picked this fight .. now you resort to lies once the facts start slapping you in the face.

You don't give a rats ass about Libya or its people, You don't give a damn about Libyan women, and you most certainly don't give a damn about black Libyans who have endured a life of nightmares since NATO walked into their lives.

Like some kind of fucking monster, you celebrate their anguish, their horrors, and the destruction of their nation.

Libya on the Brink of Chaos
Aug 23, 2013
http://blogs.wsj.com/moneybeat/2013/08/23/libya-on-the-brink-of-chaos/

Next time you attempt to call me out .. don't think about it.
 
blackascoal said:
Have you EVER read me to say ANYTHING about Pol Pot .. or are you just pulling that out of your ass because you can't respond to the truth about the horrors that everyday Libyans now endure thanks to the invasion of the west that you celebrate?

YOU picked this fight .. now you resort to lies once the facts start slapping you in the face.

You don't give a rats ass about Libya or its people, You don't give a damn about Libyan women, and you most certainly don't give a damn about black Libyans who have endured a life of nightmares since NATO walked into their lives.

Like some kind of fucking monster, you celebrate their anguish, their horrors, and the destruction of their nation.

Libya on the Brink of Chaos
Aug 23, 2013
http://blogs.wsj.com/moneybeat/2013/08/23/libya-on-the-brink-of-chaos/

Next time you attempt to call me out .. don't think about it.
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This is all a legacy of Ghadaffi who deliberately kept the National Army weak so they couldn't mount a coup d'etat like he did or the army in Egypt just did. Do you really think that if he had prevailed in 2011 that Libya would be all sweetness and light now?
 
Aoxomoxoa said:
This is all a legacy of Ghadaffi who deliberately kept the National Army weak so they couldn't mount a coup d'etat like he did or the army in Egypt just did. Do you really think that if he had prevailed in 2011 that Libya would be all sweetness and light now?
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:rofl2:

WOW .. talk about an ignorant response.

Had Gaddafi and the Libyan people prevailed, Libya would be an even better place than it was, without the Al Qaida element .. AND, Libyans would be back to enjoying the highest standard of living in Africa, .. higher than Russians, Brazilians, and Saudis.

.. AND, the UN would have bestowed its honor on Gaddafi for his advances in human and women's rights.

I repeat .. you don't give a fuck about the Libyan people. You're a fucking monster.
 
Aoxomoxoa said:
I am frankly amazed how those on the left go out of their way to avoid criticism of Ghaddafi.
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What's amazing is how you never miss posting rape apologia, and are the biggest rape apologist I have ever come across, bar none. It's nothing but; the bitches were in short skirts, the bitches were drinking, holy shit did you see what the bitch was wearing? holy shit how are you supposed to tell she's underaged, holy shit what are we supposed to carry around breathalyzers now? Not to mention trolling the world for any sad, broken woman who says in an interview she's been raped numerous times but understands that you can't expect men to do anything else, and anyway, who can prove it? you just have to let it go - so that you can post it here with "I can't help agreeing with her".

Then you, who LOVES rape when it's a western white male doing it, have the fucking balls to come on here and claim outrage over rape, and cast aspersions on other men's reactions to your bullshit.

FUCK YOU. And fuck anyone who takes your shit seriously. Lowlife.
 
blackascoal said:
:rofl2:

WOW .. talk about an ignorant response.

Had Gaddafi and the Libyan people prevailed, Libya would be an even better place than it was, without the Al Qaida element .. AND, Libyans would be back to enjoying the highest standard of living in Africa, .. higher than Russians, Brazilians, and Saudis.

.. AND, the UN would have bestowed its honor on Gaddafi for his advances in human and women's rights.

I repeat .. you don't give a fuck about the Libyan people. You're a fucking monster.
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My God you lose your cool very rapidly. Is this the same Ghaddafi that sided with fellow monster Idi Amin, the self styled King of Scotland? Is it the same Ghaddafi that tried to take on Egypt under Sadat and got his arse roundly kicked? Is it the same Ghaddafi that had his political opponents executed on live TV? As to Libya's standard of living, how could it not have considering how much oil it has and so little population, even Ghaddafi couldn't spend all the wealth on himself and his cronies.
 
Darla said:
What's amazing is how you never miss posting rape apologia, and are the biggest rape apologist I have ever come across, bar none. It's nothing but; the bitches were in short skirts, the bitches were drinking, holy shit did you see what the bitch was wearing? holy shit how are you supposed to tell she's underaged, holy shit what are we supposed to carry around breathalyzers now? Not to mention trolling the world for any sad, broken woman who says in an interview she's been raped numerous times but understands that you can't expect men to do anything else, and anyway, who can prove it? you just have to let it go - so that you can post it here with "I can't help agreeing with her".

Then you, who LOVES rape when it's a western white male doing it, have the fucking balls to come on here and claim outrage over rape, and cast aspersions on other men's reactions to your bullshit.

FUCK YOU. And fuck anyone who takes your shit seriously. Lowlife.
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APPLAUSE :hand:
 
blackascoal said:
APPLAUSE :hand:
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Thanks for that, I have the cretin on ignore. If you believe that load of old twaddle, as I know you do, then you will believe just about anything. Darla and you buy into the same kind of Marxist claptrap that has been discredited everywhere else. I just love this for over the top bullshit, "trolling the world for any sad, broken woman who says in an interview she's been raped numerous times" when I posted something previously about Helen Mirren views on date rape. That really gives you a keen insight into her mind, Helen Mirren really looks sad and broken to me, what a fucking lunatic!!
 
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Aoxomoxoa said:
Libya will sort itself out, Ghaddafi's time had come and I don't agree with the hundreds figure mentioned. He would have instigated a wholesale bloodbath in the East.
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Libya will sort itself out,,how? Do you know the NTC's leader was a "renounced AQ?"
But more importantly, how do you KNOW Gaaddfi would have instigated a bloodbath in the east?

The Thugs from east Africa were not some benign revolutionarys, they are bloodthirsty with terrorist ties.

East Africa is a hotbed of such

The NTC insurrection, was the "pick up truck" guys, they had no popular support; even as the NATO forces finally helped them advance they got no popular support.

They only got Gaddafi loyalists whom defected, not organic support from the population..this was a populist revolution?
I don't think so - it was the east African Salafists/jihadists, whom wanted to just take over Libya.

Gaddafi had a right to put down an insurrection. Shelling the pick up guys wasn't beyond that right.

Recall: He was a memeber in good standing of the world community. He renounced terrorism, He paid reperations for Lockerbie.

He even shook Obama's hand at the G-8

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Now tell me why "Gaddifi must go" became the mantra, afte the UN resolution was a no fly zone??
 
Aoxomoxoa said:
My God you lose your cool very rapidly. Is this the same Ghaddafi that sided with fellow monster Idi Amin, the self styled King of Scotland? Is it the same Ghaddafi that tried to take on Egypt under Sadat and got his arse roundly kicked? Is it the same Ghaddafi that had his political opponents executed on live TV? As to Libya's standard of living, how could it not have considering how much oil it has and so little population, even Ghaddafi couldn't spend all the wealth on himself and his cronies.
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EVERY fucking post you make further demonstrates your ungodly inhumanity and ignorance of truth.

Destroying a Country’s Standard of Living: What Libya Had Achieved, What has been Destroyed

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Against the backdrop of war propaganda, Libya’s economic and social achievements over the last thirty years, have been brutally reversed:

The [Libyan Arab Jamahiriya] has had a high standard of living and a robust per capita daily caloric intake of 3144. The country has made strides in public health and, since 1980, child mortality rates have dropped from 70 per thousand live births to 19 in 2009. Life expectancy has risen from 61 to 74 years of age during the same span of years. (FAO, Rome, Libya, Country Profile,)

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The NATO invasion and occupation marks the ruinous “rebirth” of Libya’s standard of living That is the forbidden and unspoken truth: an entire Nation has been destabilized and destroyed, its people driven into abysmal poverty.

The objective of the NATO bombings from the outset was to destroy the country’s standard of living, its health infrastructure, its schools and hospitals, its water distribution system.

And then “rebuild” with the help of donors and creditors under the helm of the IMF and the World Bank.

The diktats of the “free market” are a precondition for the instatement of a Western style “democratic dictatorship “.

About nine thousand strike sorties, tens of thousands of strikes on civilian targets including residential areas, government buildings, water supply and electricity generation facilities. (See NATO Communique, September 5, 2011. 8140 strike sorties from March 31 to September 5, 2011)

An entire nation has been bombed with the most advanced ordnance, including uranium coated ammunition.

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Meanwhile investors and donors have positioned themselves. “War is Good for Business’. NATO, the Pentagon and the Washington based international financial institutions (IFIs) operate in close coordination. What has been destroyed by NATO will be rebuilt, financed by Libya’s external creditors under the helm of the “Washington Consensus”:

“Specifically, the [World] Bank has been asked to examine the need for repair and restoration of services in the water, energy and transport sectors [bombed by NATO] and, in cooperation with the International Monetary Fund, to support budget preparation [austerity measures] and help the banking sector back on to its feet [The Libyan Central bank was one of the first government buildings to be bombed]. Employment generation for young Libyans has been added as an urgent need facing the country.” (World Bank to Help Libya Rebuild and Deliver Essential Services to Citizens emphasis added)

Whatever one’s views regarding Moamar Gadaffi, the post-colonial Libyan government played a key role in eliminating poverty and developing the country’s health and educational infrastructure. According to Italian Journalist Yvonne de Vito, “Differently from other countries that went through a revolution – Libya is considered to be the Switzerland of the African continent and is very rich and schools are free for the people. Hospitals are free for the people. And the conditions for women are much better than in other Arab countries.” (Russia Today, August 25, 2011)

These developments are in sharp contrast to what most Third World countries were able to “achieve” under Western style “democracy” and “governance” in the context of a standard IMF-World Bank Structural Adjustment program (SAP).

Public Health Care

Public Health Care in Libya prior to NATO’s “Humanitarian Intervention” was the best in Africa. “Health care is [was] available to all citizens free of charge by the public sector. The country boasts the highest literacy and educational enrolment rates in North Africa. The Government is [was] substantially increasing the development budget for health services…. (WHO Libya Country Brief )

Confirmed by the Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO), undernourishment was less than 5 %, with a daily per capita calorie intake of 3144 calories. (FAO caloric intake figures indicate availability rather than consumption).

The Libyan Arab Jamahiriya provided to its citizens what is denied to many Americans: Free public health care, free education, as confirmed by WHO and UNESCO data.

According to the World Health Organization (WHO): Life expectancy at birth was 72.3 years (2009), among the highest in the developing World.

Under 5 mortality rate per 1000 live births declined from 71 in 1991 to 14 in 2009
(http://www.who.int/countryfocus/cooperation_strategy/ccsbrief_lby_en.pdf)

Libyan Arab Jamahiriya General information
2009 Total population (000) 6 420
Annual population growth rate (%) 2.0
Population 0-14 years (%) 28
Rural population (%) 22
Total fertility rate (births per woman) 2.6
Infant mortality rate (0/00) 17
Life expectancy at birth (years) 75
GDP per capita (PPP) US$ 16 502
GDP growth rate (%) 2.1
Children of primary school-age who are out of school (%) (1978) 2
Source: UNESCO. Libya Country Profile

Education

The adult literacy rate was of the order of 89%, (2009), (94% for males and 83% for females). 99.9% of youth are literate (UNESCO 2009 figures, See UNESCO, Libya Country Report)

Gross primary school enrolment ratio was 97% for boys and 97% for girls (2009) .
(see UNESCO tables at
http://stats.uis.unesco.org/unesco/..._Language=eng&BR_Country=4340&BR_Region=40525

Women’s Rights

With regard to Women’s Rights, World Bank data point to significant achievements.

“In a relative short period of time, Libya achieved universal access for primary education, with 98% gross enrollment for secondary, and 46% for tertiary education. In the past decade, girls’ enrollment increased by 12% in all levels of education. In secondary and tertiary education, girls outnumbered boys by 10%.” (World Bank Libya Country Brief, emphasis added)

Confiscating Libyan Financial Assets

Libya`s frozen overseas financial assets are estimated to be of the order of $150 billion, with NATO countries holding more than $100 billion.

Prior to the war, Libya had no debts. In fact quite the opposite. It was a creditor nation investing in neighboring African countries.

The R2P military intervention is intended to spearhead the Libyan Arab Jamahiriya into the straightjacket of an indebted developing country, under the surveillance of the Washington based Bretton Woods institutions.

In a bitter irony, after having stolen Libya’s oil wealth and confiscated its overseas financial assets, the “donor community” has pledged to lend the (stolen) money back to finance Libya’s post-war “reconstruction”. Libya is slated to join the ranks of indebted African countries which have driven into poverty by IMF and the World Bank since the onsalught of the debt crisis in the early 1980s:

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