Say Goodbye to Clean Drinking Water

So let's get this straight, the 100ft. rule is still in place, but the ability for government to arbitrarily impose further restrictions, as they may "deem" neccesary, was taken away. Is that right?
 
Darth Omar said:
I think Don is a little irrelevant now lol.

WV, like most states, has its own EPA. We don't need Big Brother to manage it for us, thanks.
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Yea you do. You need the Feds to establish both management standards and enforcements standards or the States would have none. Not only that pollution migrates, it travels. It just doesn't stay in West Virginia. It travels outside your State and impacts the health, safety and environment of other States and we who live outside of the State of West Virginia have a right under the Interstate Commerce Act of the U.S. Constitution to make sure you fine folks in West Virginia are not polluting our air, land and water. That's a fact you can deny all you want but it remains a fact.
 
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the water in massachusetts sucks. I only drink bottled water. yum yum. Only poor people drink tap water.
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Actually bottle water is worse than tap water. First the water leached bisphenyl A epichlorohydrin which has toxic, teratogenic and mutogenic properties. Not only that but the biological loading, due to bottled water being essentially stagnant water, is orders of magnitude greater than tap water meaning your exposure to pathogens in bottled water is far, far higher than it is in tap water.

So go ahead...be an uninformed prole and drink that bottled water under the delusion that it's safer. LOL
 
anatta said:
Thanks for the info, "blunt instrument" it was.
We don't need EPA enforcement on intrastate waters if the states do their job. Using the EPA to destroy mining is classic.
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That's the big lie actually. EPA isn't destroying coal mining. Fracking for natural gas is. Natural gas production, though it has it's problems too, generates orders of magnitudes less pollution and destruction to ecological habitats as coal mining does. It's also cost less to produce a BTU of energy from natural gas than coal. Coal is dying because it's an obsolete technology. So if we're going to debate the topic lets do so honestly with facts.
 
Thing1 said:
Our environment will suffer under Trump. It is not even on his radar to protect it.

We were sort of losing the battle, anyway. When people look back on this period of time, they'll just shake their heads at how many warning signs we ignored. It's been such a short time since the Industrial Revolution, and look at what has happened to the planet in that time.

Why in the world does anyone rational think this is sustainable? We have technologies that would enable us to establish a more symbiotic relationship w/ the planet, but they're on the backburner because the fossil fuel industry is rich.
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That's actually an exaggeration too Thing. We are far, far, far, far better off, environmentally speaking, than we were prior to the major Environmental Acts of the 70's and 80's which, regardless of the partisan bickering, still have large bipartisan support on both sides of the aisles. The arguments against most the major Environmental acts come from free market ideologues who think nothing should be regulated or from States righters, who advance illogical arguments for ideas that simply don't work.

I work with a lot of folk in the environmental field who are very conservative politically and they are as much in agreement about the major Environmental acts as any progressive liberal is. The opposition from the right is almost always from either the extreme right or from those with vested financial interest that regulation impacts.
 
Thing1 said:
Our environment will suffer under Trump. It is not even on his radar to protect it.

We were sort of losing the battle, anyway. When people look back on this period of time, they'll just shake their heads at how many warning signs we ignored. It's been such a short time since the Industrial Revolution, and look at what has happened to the planet in that time.

Why in the world does anyone rational think this is sustainable? We have technologies that would enable us to establish a more symbiotic relationship w/ the planet, but they're on the backburner because the fossil fuel industry is rich.
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domer76 said:
(laughing) "Never made you sick" and "testing for microbes is plenty" demonstrates your complete ignorance of the issue. Thanks for proving my point.

Dismissed now, moron.
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So I should be fearful of my mountain spring water that has no chemical plants around? Okey dokey pokey

Seems a bit far fetched to me, but explain
 
Mott the Hoople said:
Actually bottle water is worse than tap water. First the water leached bisphenyl A epichlorohydrin which has toxic, teratogenic and mutogenic properties. Not only that but the biological loading, due to bottled water being essentially stagnant water, is orders of magnitude greater than tap water meaning your exposure to pathogens in bottled water is far, far higher than it is in tap water.

So go ahead...be an uninformed prole and drink that bottled water under the delusion that it's safer. LOL
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sounds like a classic poor person excuse
 
J Craft said:
So let's get this straight, the 100ft. rule is still in place, but the ability for government to arbitrarily impose further restrictions, as they may "deem" neccesary, was taken away. Is that right?
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So the no response from those who are critical of Trumps action to my question, got it.
 
Mott the Hoople said:
That's actually an exaggeration too Thing. We are far, far, far, far better off, environmentally speaking, than we were prior to the major Environmental Acts of the 70's and 80's which, regardless of the partisan bickering, still have large bipartisan support on both sides of the aisles. The arguments against most the major Environmental acts come from free market ideologues who think nothing should be regulated or from States righters, who advance illogical arguments for ideas that simply don't work.

I work with a lot of folk in the environmental field who are very conservative politically and they are as much in agreement about the major Environmental acts as any progressive liberal is. The opposition from the right is almost always from either the extreme right or from those with vested financial interest that regulation impacts.
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consider this, everyone thinks I am a nut here but even I support environmental regulations, and I don't even believe it violates any type of libertarian ethos. You can't control which way the wind blows.
 
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you say plebs? I usually say proles. Damn we reached the exact same conclusion. I hadn't even seen this post before my last one. You're the best tsuke. You think just like me. You are like a Grind jr.
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All the other crap you ingest and you think you are something because you drink bottled water? Priceless
 
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sounds like a classic poor person excuse
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LOL Being informed is a poor persons excuse? You're hilarious. You drink water from a plastic bottle because someone told you it was safer and you simply didn't bother to look up the facts. The facts are, in the majority of most cases, tap water is far safer to drink that bottled water. That is unless you actually like drinking bisphenyl A epichlorohydrin and pathogens. LOL
 
poor person excuse. The FDA doesn't seem to be too concerned. you are just jealous of the bottled water drinkers.
 
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poor person excuse. The FDA doesn't seem to be too concerned. you are just jealous of the bottled water drinkers.
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Moi? No I can afford a reverse osmosis filter. One that I can back flush to clean and which I regularly test with a resistance meter to determine if it's bleeding through. So I can remove the metals and chlorine from my water and I don't have to worry about consuming toxic polymers and pathogens. LOL

And I wouldn't exactly site the FDA if I was you. They approved Pork Rinds and Twinkies too! LOL
 
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