Russia's Catastrophe

I am actually not that optimistic of Putin being removed in the next few years. I hope I am wrong.

The way that Putin has eviscerated Russia's free press, opposition parties, and civil institutions, the road back to incipient Russian democracy is probably a long one.

Yep, twump and the Republicans are attempting to so the same thing in America. Ironic, huh?
 
One country has most of its infrastructure destroyed, has no heat or lights, has suffered tens of thousands of casualties and its only hope is being propped up by the free money and weapons of the west. The other country has lost some lives, some money and some prestige but has suffered no damage at home otherwise. Imagine calling the war a catastrophe for the second country. LMAO! Talk about whistling past a literal GRAVEYARD! Only in Libtardvania where the narrative being shaped is always much more important than reality. And people like Desh have the audacity to to try and talk about FACTS? :rolleyes: :laugh: :laugh:

Why do MAGAs root against democracy and for fascism? It's just sickening.
 
He doesn't know what he's saying. He'll just take the position favoring any American enemy and troll. Ask him what he means. He'll run away. He's not here to debate. He's here to troll. He's sick. Period.

It’s a Russian bot hole.


The internets are infested with them
 
One country has most of its infrastructure destroyed, has no heat or lights, has suffered tens of thousands of casualties and its only hope is being propped up by the free money and weapons of the west. The other country has lost some lives, some money and some prestige but has suffered no damage at home otherwise. Imagine calling the war a catastrophe for the second country. LMAO! Talk about whistling past a literal GRAVEYARD! Only in Libtardvania where the narrative being shaped is always much more important than reality. And people like Desh have the audacity to to try and talk about FACTS? :rolleyes: :laugh: :laugh:

There's not one single person in the history of JPP who has stated Putin's war has not been disastrous for Ukraine.

I myself have dozens of threads and posts speaking to the war crimes perpetrated on Ukrainians, the destroyed cities, the human cost.

The theme of this article is that while you and Putin expected a quick victory for Russia and a parade in dress uniforms in liberated Kyiv, the war has gone horribly wrong for Putin and the Russian armed forces

You have made it clear you think people should submit and surrender if the don't have their air conditioners, central heating, swimming pools.

Ukrainians aren't like you. Even this NY Times article quotes the Russian commanders expressing their grudging admiration for Ukrainians for having that classic Slavic tenacity to fight against long odds in defense of home turf.
 
Why do MAGAs root against democracy and for fascism? It's just sickening.

Thats not the case at all. I could give a shit less about Russia,....in fact I am rooting for PEACE. But to say that the country who has delivered almost all the destruction on to the other country is the one that is in catastrophe sounds absolutely SILLY.
 
It’s a Russian bot hole.


The internets are infested with them

No, he was one of my fellow Debate Politics members. He's always been a douche. He's spiraling though - gotten much worse and less easy to understand.
 
Thats not the case at all. I could give a shit less about Russia,....in fact I am rooting for PEACE. But to say that the country who has delivered almost all the destruction on to the other country is the one that is in catastrophe sounds absolutely SILLY.

You're rooting for the enemy. You should be rooting for the brave Ukrainians like the rest of us. Pretty sad and anti-democratic, in my opinion. Ukraine didn't ask for this war.
 
There's not one single person in the history of JPP who has stated Putin's war has not been disastrous for Ukraine.

I myself have dozens of threads and posts speaking to the war crimes perpetrated on Ukrainians, the destroyed cities, the human cost.

The theme of this article is that while you and Putin expected a quick victory for Russia and a parade in dress uniforms in liberated Kyiv, the war has gone horribly wrong for Putin and the Russian armed forces

You have made it clear you think people should submit and surrender if the don't have their air conditioners, central heating, swimming pools.

Ukrainians aren't like you. Even this NY Times article quotes the Russian commanders expressing their grudging admiration for Ukrainians for having that classic Slavic tenacity to fight against long odds in defense of home turf.

Like the Indianapolis Colts yesterday , you too most likely will learn the lesson that their are FOUR quarters to a football game,.......not three. Sadly, the Ukrainian people and to a much lesser degree the American Taxpayer will be the ones to pay the price for such blatant stupidity. Eventually all the RAH RAH RAH in the world gives way to cold hard reality.
 
You're rooting for the enemy. You should be rooting for the brave Ukrainians like the rest of us. Pretty sad and anti-democratic, in my opinion. Ukraine didn't ask for this war.

NO,...I AM NOT! Dont you understand that ROOTING doesnt have a fucking thing to do with it? Its about being REAL.
 
There's not one single person in the history of JPP who has stated Putin's war has not been disastrous for Ukraine.

I myself have dozens of threads and posts speaking to the war crimes perpetrated on Ukrainians, the destroyed cities, the human cost.

The theme of this article is that while you and Putin expected a quick victory for Russia and a parade in dress uniforms in liberated Kyiv, the war has gone horribly wrong for Putin and the Russian armed forces

You have made it clear you think people should submit and surrender if the don't have their air conditioners, central heating, swimming pools.

Ukrainians aren't like you. Even this NY Times article quotes the Russian commanders expressing their grudging admiration for Ukrainians for having that classic Slavic tenacity to fight against long odds in defense of home turf.

I respect the Ukrainians and their tenacity. They are doing what I would do. But thats ME, and MY life , not someone elses. I would never ask someone else to fight a battle they most likely cant win. A whole lot of JPPers need to get over there and help them,.......or STFU. Chickenhawks are the foulest of fowl.
 
A whole lot of JPPers are all too willing to fight that war FROM HOME right down to the last Ukrainian. Dont talk to me about "caring" or not.
 
I respect the Ukrainians and their tenacity. They are doing what I would do. But thats ME, and MY life. I would never ask someone else to fight a battle they most likely cant win. A whole lot of JPPers need to get over there and help them,.......or STFU. Chickenhawks are the foulest of fowl.

Nobody here asked or begged the Ukrainians to fight. It's up to them if they want to negotiate the loss of some of their territory.

If you think the Ukrainians are fighting because Biden has ordered them to, your judgement on world affairs is as bad as your predictions of election results.
 
Something that should be VERY interesting to watch. When China moves into Taiwan with guns blazing and bombs dropping are these same JPPers going to encourage US support for Taiwan and cheer on the people of Taiwan to fight to the death? " No,...they wont" We will know the answer to that question within 5 years most likely....;)

:dealwithit:
 
The Russian people are paying the price for never having been able to establish democracy in their own nation.

If you don't make it happen, it doesn't happen.

And even if you do, it's easy to lose it as we're doing here.
 
Something that should be VERY interesting to watch. When China moves into Taiwan with guns blazing and bombs dropping are these same JPPers going to encourage US support for Taiwan and cheer on the people of Taiwan to fight to the death? " No,...they wont" We will know the answer to that question within 5 years most likely....;)

:dealwithit:

BTW,...I Knew this one would shut most of you up. :cool: Or are you willing to go on record here and now about how you back the people of Taiwan all the way and encourage them to FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT to their own death as you sit on your couch and 3 million Chinese are rolling across the island? :laugh:
 
When China gives up its western customers by doing something stupid, they'll be broke again in no time.

I don't think that they're that stupid, however.
 
There's not one single person in the history of JPP who has stated Putin's war has not been disastrous for Ukraine.

I myself have dozens of threads and posts speaking to the war crimes perpetrated on Ukrainians, the destroyed cities, the human cost.

The theme of this article is that while you and Putin expected a quick victory for Russia and a parade in dress uniforms in liberated Kyiv, the war has gone horribly wrong for Putin and the Russian armed forces

You have made it clear you think people should submit and surrender if the don't have their air conditioners, central heating, swimming pools.

Ukrainians aren't like you. Even this NY Times article quotes the Russian commanders expressing their grudging admiration for Ukrainians for having that classic Slavic tenacity to fight against long odds in defense of home turf.




But Putin told them to give up immediately


For the right here on the internets that is enough for them to surrender and beg for mercy to their new evil dictator



If you believed the right on the internet on facts


You would long be dead of covid


What kind of party says shit that isn’t real and results in the death of their voters?



A party run by foreign influences of course
 
BTW,...I Knew this one would shut most of you up. :cool: Or are you willing to go on record here and now about how you back the people of Taiwan all the way and encourage them to FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT to their own death as you sit on your couch and 3 million Chinese are rolling across the island? :laugh:

We know you will be cheering China
 
Nobody here asked or begged the Ukrainians to fight. It's up to them if they want to negotiate the loss of some of their territory.

If you think the Ukrainians are fighting because Biden has ordered them to, your judgement on world affairs is as bad as your predictions of election results.

It’s a Russian bot hole


He cheers death everywhere
 
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