Russia lays down 4 conditions for peace

[Legion]

Theoretically, the idea of another country invading mine and then laying down such harsh conditions for "peace" doesn't seem like peace-making to me. There's nothing that says Russia won't invade again and try to take over more territory little by little. And what, specifically, does "Ukraine changes its Constitution to ensure neutrality" mean? If Ukraine recognizes Donetsk and Luhansk as independent, what's to keep them from allying with Russia to take more Ukraine territory?

It all seems to me like Russia is trying to create a new USSR.

Nobody is invadng your country, though.

 

[Legion]

You didn't really want any pro-Ukraine comments in the thread. Got it.

You think Putin cares what you post on JPP?

 

[Guno צְבִי]

History

1938 hitler promised he would have no claims on land after he got The Sudetenland and then it became Lebensraum


The lesson of Crimea: Appeasement never works

https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/ukrainealert/the-lesson-of-crimea-appeasement-never-works/

 

[christiefan915]

Nobody is invadng your country, though.

Theoretically, I'm putting myself in the shoes of Ukrainians to answer why I don't like the Russian conditions.

 

[Legion]

Unlike you I am not a drinker. Your alcohol intake has probably imparted you ability to understand correctly however.

Yeah, I suspect you're three sheets to the wind. Pathetic.

 

[christiefan915]

You think Putin cares what you post on JPP?

That's crazy. Are you okay?

 

[Legion]

History

1938 hitler promised he would have no claims on land after he got The Sudetenland and then it became Lebensraum


The lesson of Crimea: Appeasement never works

https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/ukrainealert/the-lesson-of-crimea-appeasement-never-works/

Remind me, who let Putin get away with taking Crimea?

 

[Dutch Uncle]

If it was any of your business, you could ask Putin.

Since it's not, you can't.

You didn't really want any pro-Ukraine comments in the thread. Got it.

That's because, and pardon my French, Legion is a commie cocksucker.

 

[Celticguy]

Theoretically, the idea of another country invading mine and then laying down such harsh conditions for "peace" doesn't seem like peace-making to me. There's nothing that says Russia won't invade again and try to take over more territory little by little. And what, specifically, does "Ukraine changes its Constitution to ensure neutrality" mean? If Ukraine recognizes Donetsk and Luhansk as independent, what's to keep them from allying with Russia to take more Ukraine territory?

It all seems to me like Russia is trying to create a new USSR.

Ukraine has been operating as a proxy NATO country for years on NATO money and weapons so they are not innocent and there was always the rick of a price to be paid for it. It finally came.

Consider Switzerland, another constitutionally recognized neutral country. That has meaning as well as protections. TRue much if its protection is supplied by the Alps but its there politically as well.

 

[Legion]

That's crazy. Are you okay?

You mean you DO think Putin cares what you post on JPP?

 

[Legion]

That's because, and pardon my French, Legion is a commie cocksucker.

Posting from the front, pussy?

Didn't think so.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

You mean you DO think Putin cares what you post on JPP?

Just like you have something all over your mouth. Looks like Jorgen's or melted vanilla ice cream.

 

[Celticguy]

Yeah, the UN is so scary. Say, isn't Russia on the Security Council?

yeah, they took that gig instead of NATO. but they may be enough to keep Ukraine on the straight ands narrow.

 

[Legion]

Ukraine has been operating as a proxy NATO country for years on NATO money and weapons so they are not innocent and there was always the rick of a price to be paid for it. It finally came.

Consider Switzerland, another constitutionally recognized neutral country. That has meaning as well as protections. TRue much if its protection is supplied by the Alps but its there politically as well.

Forget it. She's poutraged!

 

[cancel2 2022]

What time does your flight leave?

Theoretically, the idea of another country invading mine and then laying down such harsh conditions for "peace" doesn't seem like peace-making to me. There's nothing that says Russia won't invade again and try to take over more territory little by little. And what, specifically, does "Ukraine changes its Constitution to ensure neutrality" mean? If Ukraine recognizes Donetsk and Luhansk as independent, what's to keep them from allying with Russia to take more Ukraine territory?

It all seems to me like Russia is trying to create a new USSR.

Putin hasn't made any secret of the fact that he wishes to recreate the Soviet Union. Have you ever seen even one country in the old Soviet Bloc express any desire to go back to Russian hegemony?

 

[Legion]

yeah, they took that gig instead of NATO. but they may be enough to keep Ukraine on the straight ands narrow.

Bungling Biden won't do shit, as far as I can see.

 

[christiefan915]

You mean you DO think Putin cares what you post on JPP?

No, I think tying Putin to JPP is crazy.

 

[christiefan915]

Putin hasn't made any secret of the fact that he wishes to recreate the Soviet Union. Have you ever seen even one country in the old Soviet Bloc express any desire to go back to Russian hegemony?

No, never.

 

[Legion]

Putin hasn't made any secret of the fact that he wishes to recreate the Soviet Union. Have you ever seen even one country in the old Soviet Bloc express any desire to go back to Russian hegemony?

Might makes right, Doctor Pangloss.

 

[Nordberg]

The right-wing crazies love this subject. Ukraine is not in NATO. They were rejected. There are lots of nations whose biggest import is weapons. America of course is by far the major weapons seller on the planet. It is just business. Saudi Arabia has bought tons of weapons from us. Do we determine their politics?
Russia is blowing this place up. https://www.britannica.com/place/Kyiv