Russia lays down 4 conditions for peace

Will you vote for peace, or war?

  • I vote for peace

    Votes: 6 46.2%

  • I vote for war, as long as someone else fights it

    Votes: 3 23.1%

  • I vote for war, and I am leaving for Ukraine to fight right now

    Votes: 1 7.7%

  • I prefer to let Biden keep lying and people keep dying. This is fine

    Votes: 3 23.1%
  • Total voters
    13
  • Poll closed .
Legion said:
What time does your flight leave?
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I'm more useful trying to sway public opinion. When does your flight leave for Russia. Oh wait! Nobody is flying to Russia right now. Sadly you will to have stay at you keyboard command post. :laugh: I hear Russia is suddenly short two Generals maybe you should apply?
 
Legion said:
Trump!
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Russia, Russia, Russia.

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christiefan915 said:
Looks like a zero-sum deal that's only to Russia's benefit. What's in it for Ukraine? And don't say it will "stop the killing" because Russians are being killed, too. Apparently the Kremlin considers them cannon fodder.
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Ukraine stops getting blown to bits. Average citizens of Ukraine stop getting killed (those Ruskies are soldiers or mercinaries).
And, of course, they get to continue to be Ukrainians.

That really not reason enough for you ?
 
Hawkeye10 said:
Ukraine is not so unified in opinion as is advertised, and I expect them to wise up eventually. They have been gullible and reckless, and now they are getting their asses kicked, which represents justice.
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a million and a half plus running across the border is all the proof of that you need.
 
Celticguy said:
Ukraine stops getting blown to bits. Average citizens of Ukraine stop getting killed (those Ruskies are soldiers or mercinaries).
And, of course, they get to continue to be Ukrainians.

That really not reason enough for you ?
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Do you trust Putin and Russia to honor the deal? Why?
 
Celticguy said:
a million and a half plus running across the border is all the proof of that you need.
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This is diabolical, but this is how the Empire works..... this is intended to be a lesson for us all that one does not fuck with China and its best friends.
 
moon said:
Ukraine has the freedom to choose. It can either be neutral or it can be Russian. Them's the choices.
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I noticed that none of them seem to have any skin in this game, but their white privilege must give them the authority to speak for Ukraine, apparently.

Haw.....haw.....haw.
 
ExpressLane said:
Do you trust Putin and Russia to honor the deal? Why?
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they have achieved their other goals and this would wrap things up.

what I dont trust is NATO who will most likely try to resume its arming of Ukraine but perhaps the UN will be able to remind them of their neutrality.
 
Celticguy said:
Ukraine stops getting blown to bits. Average citizens of Ukraine stop getting killed (those Ruskies are soldiers or mercinaries).
And, of course, they get to continue to be Ukrainians.

That really not reason enough for you ?
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Theoretically, the idea of another country invading mine and then laying down such harsh conditions for "peace" doesn't seem like peace-making to me. There's nothing that says Russia won't invade again and try to take over more territory little by little. And what, specifically, does "Ukraine changes its Constitution to ensure neutrality" mean? If Ukraine recognizes Donetsk and Luhansk as independent, what's to keep them from allying with Russia to take more Ukraine territory?

It all seems to me like Russia is trying to create a new USSR.
 
Celticguy said:
they have achieved their other goals and this would wrap things up.

what I dont trust is NATO who will most likely try to resume its arming of Ukraine but perhaps the UN will be able to remind them of their neutrality.
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Yeah, the UN is so scary. Say, isn't Russia on the Security Council?
 
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