Rep. Abigail Spanberger (VA-D) - Never use the words 'socialist' or 'socialism'

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which is an unconstitutional act according to the 2nd Amendment

Right. I'm sure you're in the fringe group that believes the 2A extends to civilian possession and use of nerve gas, RPGs, missile-armed drones, and smart bombs too. "It takes a good guy with Sarin to stop a bad guy with mustard gas." :rofl2:
 
Americans typically like socialist policies, such as Social Security and Medicare, and they typically dislike the word, "Socialist". Democrats simply need to keep that in mind.

Exactly. That's why the Reichwingers fling it about so freely -- they know it scares the unwary.
 
Social Security is socialism.
Medicare is socialism.
Millions of people who support those things say that they're opposed to socialism.

America has a really serious stupid problem.
Now we'll see if we're still to stupid to fix it.
I'm not optimistic.
 
Hahaha. You seriously believe that? :laugh:
your politics are atrocious.
Pelsoi may very well not be speaker.
AOC has been tweating @ Manchin and mods.

We have been saying this for awhile:
Biden maybe be a moderate ( and he's not -he claimed "most progressive POTUS ever) -but he cant stand up to Progs

Progs gained seats, mods lost.. figure it out
 
It also means unworkable nutjob philosophy adopted by lawbreakers and idiots who have no idea of history, civilization, and how societies work.

If they want left out of societies rules then they have to step outside a societal life and live off grid. They sound like they want to live in the old American west where law was thin spread if at all. Guns and numbers were your authority and power.
 
your politics are atrocious.
Pelsoi may very well not be speaker.
AOC has been tweating @ Manchin and mods.

We have been saying this for awhile:
Biden maybe be a moderate ( and he's not -he claimed "most progressive POTUS ever) -but he cant stand up to Progs

Progs gained seats, mods lost.. figure it out

You pay far more attention to AOC than any (D) voter does. I love how she makes your ilk stain your boxers.
 
Social Security is socialism.
Medicare is socialism.
Millions of people who support those things say that they're opposed to socialism.

America has a really serious stupid problem.
Now we'll see if we're still to stupid to fix it.
I'm not optimistic.
It's a problem ingrained in many people. When the Red Scare age has disappeared you might have some sanity over it. Right now it's all conflated. As if those Soviet fucks have anything to do with it. It has so little to do with it that Finland adopted those boogieman social policies after coming out from under Soviet thumb.
 
If they want left out of societies rules then they have to step outside a societal life and live off grid. They sound like they want to live in the old American west where law was thin spread if at all. Guns and numbers were your authority and power.

Exactly. Remember that guy on the old forum, Freedom4All? He was a lifelong libertarian, unfailingly civil, and well-spoken. Yet even he could not come up with workable real life solutions for disputes that didn't involve the law. I do like some of their philosophy, particularly decriminalizing victimless crimes like possession of weed, prostitution, and so on.
 
dude, LIBERTARIAN. that means LEAVE PEOPLE THE HELL ALONE!!!!!

Only from the nutjob perspective. If you want to be a hermit, fine. If you want to participate driving on the roads We, the People built or feel protected by the national defense system We, the People built and continue to support, then you need to pay up or get the fuck out. Your call. God Bless America.
 
Exactly. Remember that guy on the old forum, Freedom4All? He was a lifelong libertarian, unfailingly civil, and well-spoken. Yet even he could not come up with workable real life solutions for disputes that didn't involve the law. I do like some of their philosophy, particularly decriminalizing victimless crimes like possession of weed, prostitution, and so on.

There's self-claimed Republicans on JPP who are really fucking Nazis or Russian operatives. There's self-proclaimed Democrats who think most Americans are too fucking stupid for their own good, so they seek to set up a Politburo to tell us all what to do. There's self-proclaimed Libertarians who think abortion and gay marriage are sins worthy of the death penalty. In short, there's all sorts of fucking morons who claim to be something but really aren't.

Time for people to start taking each other at face value, not by just what they claim to be. Time for all Americans to stand united and say "ENOUGH!" and demand our leaders live the values of our nation, not just talk about them. The key is for enough Americans to say "ENOUGH!"
 
Time for people to start taking each other at face value, not by just what they claim to be. Time for all Americans to stand united and say "ENOUGH!" and demand our leaders live the values of our nation, not just talk about them. The key is for enough Americans to say "ENOUGH!"

Do you have any hopes that that will ever happen in our lifetimes though?
 
I can tell you're an idiot because you seem to think that Libertarians are anarchist isolationists who pine for amish principles, or some stupid shit like that..........it's why you can't possibly contemplate freedom. you obviously think people need to be controlled and regulated for your safety.

You claim to be anti corporation but here you are using a computer made by a corporation accessing the internet on an isp owned by a corporation.... and so on. So yeah of course you conform to their rules willingly. You do it when it’s convenient. Your a phony. Most libertarians are. It’s for coffee house intellectuals and has no practical purpose. But if you ever do get some reins on the government let me know so I can start my meth business. No environmental laws, child labor laws, gun laws, drug laws.....count me in!!!
 
Do you have any hopes that that will ever happen in our lifetimes though?

Absolutely. Maybe we can go one notch lower than Trump with a Left Winger (not Biden, maybe Harris), but I think (and hope!) our nation has hit the end of the pendulum swing and will start swinging back towards sanity before slowly going crazy again.

If that is the case, then you and I will most certainly die seeing the nation on a good swing. :)
 
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