PSAKI: "Even after you’re vaccinated, social distancing / masks will be essential

[LV426]

No, you can't have 100% safety.

Sure you can.

You just need to put in the effort to act responsibly.

Acting responsibly doesn't seem like something you're capable of doing.

So for all your bluster, the truth is that you're just very childish.

You're not a responsible adult, nor do you take responsibility seriously.

So you should just kill yourself now, since that's what you're trying to do anyway.

People will still contract this disease.

Only if you don't take it seriously and don't act responsibly.

Are you saying you're incapable of taking it seriously or acting responsibly? Because I don't think you can.

I don't think you have it in you to act responsibly.

I think you're too depressed and too lazy.

 

[LV426]

My chances of dying from it are next to nil.

Your chances of dying from a bear attack are nil or next to nil, but you don't go out and try to pet bears, do you?

The death rate right now is about 1% and if you aren't in a "high risk" group by either age or preexisting condition(s) your chances are even lower.

1% of 320M people is 3.2M people. Which is twice as many people as live in Phoenix, the town where you claim to be from.

So if you think killing 3.2M people, or your hometown twice over, is cool then I would ask why are you waiting for COVID? Why don't you just kill those people now yourself since they're going to die anyway?

Why don't you do that? Too lazy? I think so.

 

[LV426]

I'll take reasonable precautions

The problem is you don't know what the reasonable precautions are because you still think COVID is a hoax.

 

[LV426]

I think in terms of safety is my own concern.

No, you think in terms of yourself, which is selfishness. You haven't learned what it means to care about other people. That's because you're depressed. Kill yourself.

I don't want the government telling me how safe I have to be and forcing that on me because they'll always opt for the worst case scenario and enforce rules that are overkill.

Well, you don't believe COVID is serious and you still think it's a hoax, so you do need government to tell you it isn't because your behavior is putting other people at risk. All because you're depressed and are too chicken to kill yourself.

I can't take you seriously while you refuse to take COVID seriously.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

No, you think in terms of yourself, which is selfishness. You haven't learned what it means to care about other people. That's because you're depressed. Kill yourself.

Not depressed at all. Safety is something I need to be aware of not be told how to do by others. That creates complacency. You are relying on others for your personal safety. My personal safety is my business.

Well, you don't believe COVID is serious and you still think it's a hoax, so you do need government to tell you it isn't because your behavior is putting other people at risk. All because you're depressed and are too chicken to kill yourself.

I don't think Chinese Disease is a hoax at all. I just don't think it's as serious as the government says it is. My behavior doesn't put others at risk.

I can't take you seriously while you refuse to take COVID seriously.

Just because the government says something doesn't make it true or right.

It is you that has a problem. You are completely unable to think for yourself, weigh information, and make informed decisions for yourself. Instead, you rely others to tell you what to do and when to do it like a good little automaton. Enjoy being the government's mindless robot if you want, but I'll ignore them when they are talking major stupid.

 

[LV426]

Safety is something I need to be aware of not be told how to do by others..

Apparently you do need to be told what to do because you're reckless.

How can you adhere to any rules or guidelines if you don't even take the threat of COVID seriously?

That creates complacency.

No. Throwing up your hands and crying that 100% safety isn't achievable because you're not personally responsible enough is what creates complacency. And what complacency are you referring to here? Cuz it feels like you're just throwing out a charged word to try and spike the debate.

My personal safety is my business.

No, it's everyone's business now because of how transmissible COVID is, despite you pretending it wasn't for a whole fucking year.

I don't think Chinese Disease is a hoax at all.

First of all, it's YOUR DISEASE because YOU THOUGHT IT WAS A HOAX AT THE BEGINNING.

Secondly, in addition to it being TA's (your) disease, it is also Trump's disease because he was warned about it and like you, didn't take the warnings seriously.

 

[LV426]

I just don't think it's as serious as the government says it is.

Right, so you think it's a hoax.

So when you said before that you didn't think it was a hoax, you were lying.

Or...you're lying now.

So were you lying in the last post when you said it wasn't a hoax, or are you lying now when you say it is?

 

[T. A. Gardner]

Right, so you think it's a hoax.

So when you said before that you didn't think it was a hoax, you were lying.

Or...you're lying now.

So were you lying in the last post when you said it wasn't a hoax, or are you lying now when you say it is?

hoax
[hōks]
NOUN
a humorous or malicious deception.
"they recognized the plan as a hoax" · [more]
synonyms:
practical joke · joke · jest · prank · trick · jape · ruse · deception · fraud · [more]

You are using the word improperly. I think the government's response is hysteric, overblown, unrealistic, exaggerated, unwarranted, but it isn't a hoax. Do learn the meaning of words before you use them, otherwise you'll end up like Humpty Dumpty...

 

[LV426]

Just because the government says something doesn't make it true or right.

Just because YOU SAY SOMETHING doesn't make it true or right. Including this statement.

t is you that has a problem.

I'm not the one talking out of both sides of my mouth, you are.

You are completely unable to think for yourself

You're the one who repeats Trump, not me.

You're the one who says it's a hoax, then says it isn't, then says it is again.

weigh information

What information would you like me to weigh? Because all I've done on this thread is weigh information, and doing so upset you quite a lot.

nd make informed decisions for yourself.

You should practice what you preach.

As it stands, you don't make informed decisions for yourself, and you also aren't even thinking in terms of other people, which is what this is really about.

You don't think you should be responsible for yourself or your actions.

Whether you believe it or not, that is what you're arguing here.

Instead, you rely others to tell you what to do and when to do it like a good little automaton

Yes, I listen to experts.

Why don't you?

Enjoy being the government's mindless robot if you want, but I'll ignore them when they are talking major stupid.

Your attitude about government is so fucking juvenile. I expect this kind of depressed bullshit out of teenagers who have just read Ayn Rand.

Well guess what? Ayn Rand was a welfare leech who died penniless.

 

[LV426]

You are using the word improperly.

No, I'm using it accurately because that's how you used it 12 months ago.

And you're still using it because you're not taking COVID seriously today.

The only reason we can't achieve 100% safety is because of you.

So you make it impossible for anything to be safe, then pretend like nothing is safe.

Well, nothing's safe because of you.

So as I said before...KILL YOURSELF if that's what you're going to do.

If you're going to make it impossible for people to achieve safety from COVID, then fucking kill yourself you coward.

Do it you fucking pussy.

 

[Into the Night]

Maybe you should direct that question to the families of the over 400,000 who have died,

There is no vaccine for death.

and hundreds of thousands of others who are hospitalized.

There is no vaccine for infections.

Then you can also ask those who had contracted COVID and survived but are dealing with some awfully bad long term effects.

There is no vaccine for fear mongering.

 

[Into the Night]

yes its rude to cough or sneeze on someone.

Okay. We have established that.

nut if it has to happen,

Why does it have to happen? If you're sick, stay home. If you have to cough or sneeze, don't do it on someone else.

wouldn't you prefer the person to wear even a bandanna around his face?

Makes no difference. Unlike you, I do not live in fear.

There is a place for masks. but not after the vaccine becomes prevalent.

The vaccine is already prevalent.

I have antibodies so I only wear it where absolutely required.

Why is it required? Because DEMOCRATS have required them, not because they are effective against viruses or anything.

 

[Into the Night]

The health impacts of Covid will be felt for years to come.

Meh.

The economic costs will also be felt for years to come.

Blame the DEMOCRATS.

This could have been much easier if a large segment of the population didn't choose to ignore the science
and instead worship a demagogue.

Democrats again.

The cost of that cult worship is probably in the trillions, and the loss of life that result from that worship is incomprehensible.

Democrats again.

And sadly, these ignoramuses continue to pile on the damage.

Democrats do continue to pile on the damage, True.

 

[Into the Night]

It might improve his appearance, so there's that.

Fortunately we don't have to look at him here on JPP anyway.

 

[Minister of Truth]

Sure you can.

You just need to put in the effort to act responsibly.

Acting responsibly doesn't seem like something you're capable of doing.

So for all your bluster, the truth is that you're just very childish.

You're not a responsible adult, nor do you take responsibility seriously.

So you should just kill yourself now, since that's what you're trying to do anyway.




Only if you don't take it seriously and don't act responsibly.

Are you saying you're incapable of taking it seriously or acting responsibly? Because I don't think you can.

I don't think you have it in you to act responsibly.

I think you're too depressed and too lazy.

If you put enough people into work camps, you can start to have a lot of safety.

 

[Into the Night]

And until the vaccinations create herd immunity, you still need to wear a mask.

Why?? You're immune, aren't you?

This isn't brain surgery.

Apparently you could use some.

It's simple epidemiology. Even after being vaccinated, you shed virus particles.

Another classic! That one goes into my signature line!

The good news is the vaccinations practically guarantee that even if you get the virus, you won't get sick enough to require hospitalization.

Then tell me why you need to wear a mask again???

 

[Matt Dillon]

Don't be all Covid-panicked n stuff.

It'll be OK, and the sooner we get back to normal, the better.

Sure, some precautions should be taken. Nothing too extreme, though.

Obama didn't shut everything down for the Swine Flu or anything.

 

[Matt Dillon]

The problem is you don't know what the reasonable precautions are because you still think COVID is a hoax.

Covid panic is bullshit, boy.
Shutting everything down is retarded.
Get it and die, or get it and get over it and move on!
But don't fuck everybody over along the way.

 

[Into the Night]

Every single thing you said about COVID has been wrong.

Describing yourself again?

You said it was a hoax.

The virus isn't a hoax. The fear mongering by DEMOCRATS is the hoax.

You said it was no worse than the flu.

It isn't.

You said 15 cases would be down to zero in no time.

No one ever said that.

You said the warm weather would kill it.

No one ever said that either. UV light will kill it though. This increases in the summer months. People are also out more, and not holed up inside somewhere. DEMOCRAT fear mongering and lockdowns caused people to be stuck inside, making things worse, not better.

You said HCQ would cure it. Then you said HCQ would prevent it. Then you said HCQ would prevent it, but only in rare cases. Then you said HCQ would prevent it, but only in rare cases, and only as part of a larger cocktail.

No one ever said that. HCQ does have an effect on mitigating it however.

You said kids couldn't catch it or spread it.

No one ever said that either. Kids can certainly handle in infection better than one that already has a compromised respiratory system.

You said that lockdowns would be worse than the disease (that has killed almost 500,000 people)

Argument from randU fallacy. Covid19 has killed no one. The lockdowns are worse than the disease. The lockdowns are caused by DEMOCRATS.

You said that we could achieve herd immunity if everyone just infected themselves with it.

Guess what a vaccine does?

You said that drinking bleach or shining a lightbulb up your ass would work.

No one ever said that either.

You said masks didn't work, then you said they did, then you reversed yourself and said they didn't.

Masks don't work. They are completely ineffective against viruses. I have never changed that statement.

You said the protests were responsible for the surges.

What surges? Oh...you mean the fabricated random numbers you call data.

You said said Trump's Warp Speed got us the vaccine,

It did.

but the drug companies were already working on a vaccine for 3 months before Warp Speed was even a thing.

Irrelevant. By getting government out of the way of vaccine approval, the usual five year bureaucratic delay was bypassed.

You said the infected came from China, when they actually came from Europe and a cruise ship.

The virus first appeared in the Wuhan district of China. It came from China.

You have never said anything truthful or accurate about COVID.

You are describing yourself again. Inversion fallacy.

Instead, you've lied and spread misinformation. Deliberately, I'd argue.

You are describing yourself again. Inversion fallacy.

 

[Into the Night]

Want to know why you need to wear a mask after getting vaccinated?

Because the vaccines are not 100% effective.

The best one is 98%, but that would still leave 6.4M people in the US vulnerable for whom the vaccine doesn't work.

Divisional error fallacy. Non-sequitur fallacy. Masks are completely ineffective against viruses.