Obama against mandate

Superfreak said:
Wow... you truly are a fucking moron when it comes to economics. If you pump 32 million new people into the system, you are dramatically increasing demand while not seeing any increase in supply. When you also have continuing cost increases in overall health care expenses, premiums go up.

You are also quite ignorant if you think the low risk side increases are going to be the majority of those 32 million.



Like I stated, you are an idiot when it comes to economics. If overall health care costs are INCREASING.... you are not making it 'more affordable'. You are simply playing a shell game of HOW people pay for that health care.

tell us .... WHERE the money comes from for those subsidies you mentioned?
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Sounds like a ponzi scheme.
 
wiseones2cents said:
YA! And we should stop people from having to pay auto Insurance, and wear life jackets and seat belts and social security, and property tax and everything else they do to help protect man from their own stupidity.(note sarcasm).

As Obama explains, If health care was affordable, everyone would want in. They wouldn't have to mandate it. People would want in, like here in Canada where we have Free Health care insurance.

The people that would cry the most is the wealthy that have to give away the biggest piece of the pie. And most do not become multi billionaires being charitable.

Anyone that is not rich and does not support Universal health care, have really bought all the mis-information hook, line and sinker.

They dare not say that America does not have the best health care in the world(something they have been indoctrinated to believe from birth), while The international community and also Medical academics in America KNOW otherwise. They may seem anti-American, unpatriotic, face taunting(By the rich of course).
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hmmmmmmmmm, let's see.
If someone doesn't own a car, then they are not REQUIRED to buy car insurance.
If someone isn't on a boat, then they are not REQUIRED to wear a life jacket.
If someone isn't riding a motor vehicle, then they are not REQUIRED to wear a seatbelt.
If someone isn't working, then they are not REQUIRED to pay into the Social Security system.
If someone doesn't own a house, then they are not REQUIRED to have property insurance.
If someone is renting, they still aren't REQUIRED to have property insurance.

Now of course, those examples are able to apply to the United States; but maybe Canada REQUIRES their citizens to do some really stupid stuff. :good4u:

Since you failed miserably, with your examples; would you like to make another attempt at making sense?
 
Yurt said:
In ruling against President Obama‘s health care law, federal Judge Roger Vinson used Mr. Obama‘s own position from the 2008 campaign against him, when the then-Illinois senator argued there were other ways to achieve reform short of requiring every American to purchase insurance.

“I note that in 2008, then-Senator Obama supported a health care reform proposal that did not include an individual mandate because he was at that time strongly opposed to the idea, stating that, ‘If a mandate was the solution, we can try that to solve homelessness by mandating everybody to buy a house,’” Judge Vinson wrote in a footnote toward the end of his 78-page ruling Monday.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/jan/31/judge-uses-obamas-words-against-him/

now thats funny! though i suspect nigel will not be able to see the humor :awesome:
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So The Obama was against it before he was for it...
 
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