Obama against mandate

Sticks & stones, Yurtsie; sticks & stones...

yes, i know thats all you throw...

all you do is whine about how others can't read, when in reality you can't and unfortunately for you, i was able to show more of obama repeatedly saying he is against the mandate, he is against forcing people to buy insurance, hence, the OP is quite accurate and in context.

sucks to be you
 
yes, i know thats all you throw...

all you do is whine about how others can't read, when in reality you can't and unfortunately for you, i was able to show more of obama repeatedly saying he is against the mandate, he is against forcing people to buy insurance, hence, the OP is quite accurate and in context.

sucks to be you

That's all I know? You're the one doing the namecalling, as usual. And I wish you COULD read.

Sounds like you're the one having the meltdown, though. LOL
 
That's all I know? You're the one doing the namecalling, as usual. And I wish you COULD read.

Sounds like you're the one having the meltdown, though. LOL

look at your posts in this thread onceler, mostly insults, its all you do

and explain how i cannot read...explain how the full quote makes the OP moot or not accurate...explain how obama repeatedly saying he is against the mandate is evidence i can't read
 
look at your posts in this thread onceler, mostly insults, its all you do

and explain how i cannot read...explain how the full quote makes the OP moot or not accurate...explain how obama repeatedly saying he is against the mandate is evidence i can't read

My posts on this thread are not "mostly insults." More proof that you simply can't read.

Tff....
 
didn't think you could explain why i can't read or how the OP is not accurate or out of context

keep up the lame insults :good4u:

It's not a "lame insult." It's actually a very valid observation.

You should read back through the thread, and then re-evaluate your contention that I have "mostly" insulted. While I'm trying to make actual arguments, most of the righties (including yourself) are the ones spewing out "moron," "retard", "simpleton", et al.

You just have a blind eye to your own peeps. But I'd defy anyone to read through my responses on this thread & characterize them as "mostly insults."

So, you either can't read, or you're just lying. You choose.
 
great.... once again Yurt and Oncelor have turned a thread into a personal love fest for each other, completely diverting from the actual conversation.

How about you two take it to your own thread and leave this one to the actual discussion of the insanity of Obamacare?
 
great.... once again Yurt and Oncelor have turned a thread into a personal love fest for each other, completely diverting from the actual conversation.

How about you two take it to your own thread and leave this one to the actual discussion of the insanity of Obamacare?

Gee, sorry 'bout that. When someone's first comment on the thread toward me is to call me a retard, to which they follow up that I am "mostly" insulting, I tend to not let it slide...
 
Gee, sorry 'bout that. When someone's first comment on the thread toward me is to call me a retard, to which they follow up that I am "mostly" insulting, I tend to not let it slide...

well... start a thread for you and yurt and take your slap fight over there. Let the grown ups get back to discussing the issues with Obama care.

retard :)
 
It's not a "lame insult." It's actually a very valid observation.

You should read back through the thread, and then re-evaluate your contention that I have "mostly" insulted. While I'm trying to make actual arguments, most of the righties (including yourself) are the ones spewing out "moron," "retard", "simpleton", et al.

You just have a blind eye to your own peeps. But I'd defy anyone to read through my responses on this thread & characterize them as "mostly insults."

So, you either can't read, or you're just lying. You choose.

and once again you avoid the actual topic and focus on personal insults...

one more chance and if you fail to address the actual issues, its back to ignore

explain how i cannot read...explain how the full quote makes the OP moot or not accurate...explain how obama repeatedly saying he is against the mandate is evidence i can't read
 
Very few things are 100% predictable. But one of those is that Yurtsie can't read.

It's also hilarious how you are still unable to read. The context definitely changes the sentence, and basically makes the OP moot.

I think Yurtsie has been giving the other righties on the board reading lessons...

Gee, sorry 'bout that. When someone's first comment on the thread toward me is to call me a retard, to which they follow up that I am "mostly" insulting, I tend to not let it slide...

this why you're a retarded dishonest hack....you're all butthurt because i call you a retard and you make it out as if i attacked you first...all your posts in this thread about me are nothing but insults and i had not responded to you, yet you continued the insults, its why i ignore most everything you say, because its mostly insults
 
this why you're a retarded dishonest hack....you're all butthurt because i call you a retard and you make it out as if i attacked you first...all your posts in this thread about me are nothing but insults and i had not responded to you, yet you continued the insults, its why i ignore most everything you say, because its mostly insults

I'm not hurt at all. I just think it's hilariously ironic that you said my posts were "mostly insults," when your 1st response to me was an insult & nothing more. It shows someone who has very little if any self-awareness.

And, once again, my posts were not "mostly insults." Looks like you're having a meltdown by scrambling through the thread to find the only posts that could be construed as insults (but you really can't read), but those make up a very small portion of my responses on this thread.
 
i'll give you another chance because i veered off topic to show how dishonest you are:

explain how i cannot read...explain how the full quote makes the OP moot or not accurate...explain how obama repeatedly saying he is against the mandate is evidence i can't read

let's see if you can actually discuss your assertions regarding the quote and your claims i can't read...i don't think you can
 
i'll give you another chance because i veered off topic to show how dishonest you are:



let's see if you can actually discuss your assertions regarding the quote and your claims i can't read...i don't think you can

I have explained that. The quote is definitely mischaracterized since the mandates he is referring to are contingent on affordability.

Now, I answered your question. Since you once again are claiming I was dishonest, it's time you answered mine. Was your contention that I "mostly insulted" on this thread based on an inability to read properly, or were you just lying? Let me know which one.
 
I have explained that. The quote is definitely mischaracterized since the mandates he is referring to are contingent on affordability.

Now, I answered your question. Since you once again are claiming I was dishonest, it's time you answered mine. Was your contention that I "mostly insulted" on this thread based on an inability to read properly, or were you just lying? Let me know which one.

not at all, in fact, i gave you additional quotes that said he was philosophically opposed to a mandate, it was not contingent at all, he expressly said i do not want to force people to buy insurance, yet you would have us believe that it was contingent, it wasn't. thus, you still have not explained how i can't read and how the OP is moot and out of context.

no surprise
 
1) Health care premiums are going up, not down as a result of Obamacare. While you can point to 'affordability' measures that individually might have a benefit, on the whole Obamacare is going to raise premiums. It is not going to make them more affordable. Obamacare does NOTHING to reduce the overall impact of rising health care costs and insurance premiums. Nothing.

2) There is no 'vague' concept of affordability. Either premiums will go down or they won't. Anyone seeing their premiums going down?

BULLSHIT. Premiums have been steadily increasing for decades, far outpacing inflation. Obamacare will eventualy reduce costs; presently the uninsured use emergency rooms as free health care clinics. This is very expensive, compared to real walk in clinics. Since they are uninsured, and have free care, the rest of us pay more. Additionaly, costs will be reduced by prevention, rather than cure.

If anyone REALLY wanted to reduce costs, single payer would do that, by eliminating the profit taking and administative costs of the private insurance companies ($310 for every $1000 spent.
 
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