Militia takes over federal building in Oregon

Mr.Badguy said:
Gee I wonder what counter argument we'll see from the right... Perhaps something along the lines of blah blah welfare, blah blah at least these guys aren't black, etc etc.
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They don't have a counter argument, that's why you won't see them on this thread.

ILA tried but he got shut down pretty quickly, not that that's hard.
 
christiefan915 said:
Here's the latest.

BURNS, Ore. (AP) — A leader of the small, armed group that is occupying a remote national wildlife preserve in Oregon said Tuesday they will go home when a plan is in place to turn over management of federal lands to locals.

Ammon Bundy told reporters at the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge that ranchers, loggers and farmers should have control of federal land — a common refrain in a decades-long fight over public lands in the West.

"It is our goal to get the logger back to logging, the rancher back to ranching," said the son of Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy, who was involved in a high-profile 2014 standoff with the government over grazing rights.

The younger Bundy's anti-government group is critical of federal land stewardship, but environmentalists and others say U.S. officials should keep control for the broadest possible benefit to business, recreation and the environment. The armed activists seized the refuge's headquarters Saturday night. Roughly 20 people bundled in camouflage, earmuffs and cowboy hats seem to be centered around a complex of buildings on the 300-square-mile high desert preserve.

As the takeover entered its third day, authorities had not moved in and had not shut off power to the refuge, Arizona rancher LaVoy Finicum said, adding that he was eager to go home and tend to his cattle.

"If they cut it off, that would be such a crying shame. All the pipes would freeze," he said.

A pickup truck blocked the entrance to the preserve earlier Tuesday, and a man looked out over the snowy grounds from a watchtower. Ammon Bundy offered few specifics about the group's plan to get the land turned over to local control, but Finicum said the activists would examine the underlying land ownership transactions to begin to "unwind it." The federal government controls about half of all land in the West, which would make the wholesale transfer of ownership extremely difficult and expensive."

http://news.yahoo.com/no-hurry-defe...quires-delicate-response-084650209.html?nf=1#
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That's hilarious...All LaVoy is worried about is the government's water pipes...
LOL
He will be one of the first to bail out.
 
Bundy's rhetoric is already starting to be walked back...
Bundy: We'll Leave Occupied Buildings If Community Wants Us To
A bit different from " we will stay as long as this takes"
Sheriff Ward has assured the press that "charges will be brought against them no matter what happens"... and "the county wants them to go home"
The Governor of Oregon says she wants a quick resolution to this matter.
Some of the ranchers occupying the center have expressed a desire to get back to their ranches and families...

My gut tells me this is ending soon.
 
Buckly J. Ewer said:
Bundy's rhetoric is already starting to be walked back...
Bundy: We'll Leave Occupied Buildings If Community Wants Us To
A bit different from " we will stay as long as this takes"
Sheriff Ward has assured the press that "charges will be brought against them no matter what happens"... and "the county wants them to go home"
The Governor of Oregon says she wants a quick resolution to this matter.
Some of the ranchers occupying the center have expressed a desire to get back to their ranches and families...

My gut tells me this is ending soon.
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Are they dumb enough to think they are going home to their ranches anytime soon?
 
Some of these very same terrorists aimed guns at federal agents back during the Nevada standoff. No charges were brought after that, this is the result.
 
Buckly J. Ewer said:
I don't accept your belief that your racism isn't obvious.
It is...racist.
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Good for you you are a useful idiot for the left, who since this President has been in office has made everything about race to take focus off their ineptness, or down right evil intentions. I'll let you judge that I know what I think.
 
Mott the Hoople said:
Please explain how this is double jeopardy? They have not been retried for the same offense. They were improperly sentenced. If you committed a murder and were convicted of it and the judge sentenced you to two years imprisonment but the State minimum sentence life then your sentence can and probably would be changed to the correct sentence. Do you even know what double jeopardy is?
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It was 5 years for burning grass, and brush, and it saved their ranch, are you saying the Judge has no rights in sentencing, have you heard of leniency. Admit it you just don't like them because they have guns and believe in the constitution.
 
Buckly J. Ewer said:
Just some yokels doing a breaking and entering and squatting in a federal building.
The looting will come later when they have to burn the furniture to keep warm...
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They are already looting by driving the vehicles owned by the Fed and using the Governments gas. They are using the Governments electricity, and building.

That's looting, its just not televisions.
 
patriot66 said:
It was 5 years for burning grass, and brush, and it saved their ranch, are you saying the Judge has no rights in sentencing, have you heard of leniency. Admit it you just don't like them because they have guns and believe in the constitution.
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This is the problem with the Conservative darling of minimum mandatory sentencing, it takes the judge's "rights" away at sentencing.

Look into it, Mandatory Minimums, designed to take away discretion from judges who were lenient on black drug dealers works both ways. It was a harsh sentence... but sadly.. that's the law!
 
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