Is Trump being baited, again?

Jarod said:
There is NO constitutional prohibition against the feds investigating anything for any or no reason!
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you are a lawyer??

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
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investigation by any prosecutorial entity has to be done with some kind of basis.
Warrants cannot be issued without probable cause.

Of course this has all been trampled under guise of "national security"- but a specific criminal investigation by a prosecutor ( not a police action) needs to have a suspected crime as a basis.

Mueller has no basis - no suspected crime for his fishing expeditions
 
Tranquillus in Exile said:
Are you saying that Mueller and his team of partisans are being paid by Hillary to get Trump?

If not that, then what?
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If you noticed, that was a quote -i gave a source.
It's referring to the basis of the counter-intelligence investigation ( which Mueller subsumed ) whereby Clinton
and the DNC paid for the steele dossier that started all this junk noise
 
Havana Moon said:
Trump has every right to be angry at Rosenstein for signing the order. He should get rid of him ASAP.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...houted-angrily-Rod-Rosenstein-Cohen-raid.html
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During these outbursts, the paper reported, Trump fumed that he wished Rosenstein was not in the job, and that there was no one making the prosecutors follow the rules, a Trump adviser told the Post.

The New York Times later reported that it was indeed Rosenstein who signed off on the warrant.
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Hello Darth Omar,

Darth Omar said:
I’ve been saying for months that Trump was baited into firing Comey, who then leaked to his buddy, with the *admitted* intent to have his other buddy Mueller, appointed as SP, by his other buddy, Rosenweasel.

Then out of the blue, Mueller raids Trump’s lawyers office [or sees that it’s raided—I don’t buy the bullshit distinction] over the Stormy Gate non-issue that is light years removed from anything to do with Russians or the election.

And in the process, runs roughshod over the sacred principle of attorney/client privilege. As an aside, I was always under the impression that liberals had a strong libertarian streak in them, but their silence is deafening.
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I am confident that there was strong evidence or that very serious search warrant would never have been issued by a Republican judge.

Darth Omar said:
Then I noticed Trump speaking about it yesterday in a clip. I’m not a body language expert but he was speaking with his arms crossed and my impression was ‘this man is really pissed off’.

I think Mueller is coming up empty and wants Trump to fire him. And if I know Trump like I think I do, he’s liable say F* the political consequences, if that’s what you want, you’re fired—go join your buddy Comey.

They are absolutely after this man and will stoop to anything to get rid of him. I’ve never seen anything like it.
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Or it could be that Mueller has strong evidence and just cause to pursue the matter. Remember: Mueller is a Republican who was praised by all, including the president, at the time he was appointed SC. He fired people who were showing bias. He is a strict by-the-rules man who believes in justice. Could be he is simply doing the best job he knows how to do and serving his nation proudly.
 
noise said:
If you noticed, that was a quote -i gave a source.
It's referring to the basis of the counter-intelligence investigation ( which Mueller subsumed ) whereby Clinton
and the DNC paid for the steele dossier that started all this junk noise
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This started long before they knew about the Steele dossier.
 
PoliTalker said:
Hello Darth Omar,



I am confident that there was strong evidence or that very serious search warrant would never have been issued by a Republican judge.



Or it could be that Mueller has strong evidence and just cause to pursue the matter. Remember: Mueller is a Republican who was praised by all, including the president, at the time he was appointed SC. He fired people who were showing bias. He is a strict by-the-rules man who believes in justice. Could be he is simply doing the best job he knows how to do and serving his nation proudly.
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Hello, PoliTalker.

You’re an amiable but gullible sort.
 
kudzu said:
This started long before they knew about the Steele dossier.
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correct.
I should have expressed the fact he steele dossier "birthed" the Mueller probe.

Brennan was sure to publicize it to increase political pressure ( which really is why Mueller is in business)..
the contents smacked of Russian collusion-
but as Comey said it was "salacious and unverified"
 
noise said:
you are a lawyer??


investigation by any prosecutorial entity has to be done with some kind of basis.
Warrants cannot be issued without probable cause.

Of course this has all been trampled under guise of "national security"- but a specific criminal investigation by a prosecutor ( not a police action) needs to have a suspected crime as a basis.

Mueller has no basis - no suspected crime for his fishing expeditions
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You can investigate anyone for any reason and not violate the 4th Amendment. Read the Amendment!!!

You can’t search private property or papers without a warrant, they went to a judge and he agrees they had pc and searched!

What’s unconditional?
 
kudzu said:
They are all seedy characters.. Manafort, Flynn, Carter Page, Gates, Kushner.
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Manafort will do time. Gates perhaps.

General Flynn was screwed. Carter Page is harmless goof ball. Kushner is a stretch.

And they knew about Manafort while Trump was a private citizen.

Remind me again why we’re spending so much tax money on Mueller’s Mystery Crime Search?
 
noise said:
If you noticed, that was a quote -i gave a source.
It's referring to the basis of the counter-intelligence investigation ( which Mueller subsumed ) whereby Clinton
and the DNC paid for the steele dossier that started all this junk noise
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I was asking anatta and you replied. Lol.

So you (or anatta) are quoting a source that says the FBI investigation started because of the Steele dossier?
 
Jarod said:
You can investigate anyone for any reason and not violate the 4th Amendment. Read the Amendment!!!

You can’t search private property or papers without a warrant, they went to a judge and he agrees they had pc and searched!

What’s unconditional?
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you fail (as usual) to limit your language.
I was specific to differentiate between a police action and a prosecutorial investigation.

even a grand jury requires probable cause
 
noise said:
correct.
I should have expressed the fact he steele dossier "birthed" the Mueller probe.

Brennan was sure to publicize it to increase political pressure ( which really is why Mueller is in business)..
the contents smacked of Russian collusion-
but as Comey said it was "salacious and unverified"
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No it didn't...
 
Tranquillus in Exile said:
I was asking anatta and you replied. Lol.

So you (or anatta) are quoting a source that says the FBI investigation started because of the Steele dossier?
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disclosure: I use both 'anatta' and 'noise'. anatta is supposed to be more thoughtful, noise is political spats.
In practice they both sorta overlap

I linked the source
 
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