If the Senate allows a fair trial...

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Nobody has been able to explain to me the relevance of Biden's testimony.

Well, playing Hannity, they think if they can create suspicion that Biden used his position as VP to help the son get his job and protect him from investigation, it will show that Trump was right in his concern for corruption to ask the Ukraine to investigate the Bidens. That mentioning the Bidens wasn't because he was a political rival but rather cause Trump was really focused on cleaning up the Ukriane as part of releasing the money

That is the supposed reason, in reality, it is just a deflection, and as I noted above, they see Biden saying something that they can turn into umpteen conspiracies to discredit him politically

 

[Earl]

Biden and Son are dirty.

We will see how dirty in the trial.

 

[PoliTalker]

Hello dukkha,

there are no "facts" just speculation and twisting to arrive at faux motives.
But doesn't listen to us "smelly Walmart voters" -you'll hear from us come November again

There are most definitely facts of the case, whether Trump fans admit them or not.

 

[Jarod]

They were wrong, early, as they are wrong now, early.

The earlier they are the more likely they are wrong, they could be wrong in Trumps favor, or in the Democrats favor, we do not know. That is why its dumb to make a prediction at this point.

 

[Jarod]

Well, playing Hannity, they think if they can create suspicion that Biden used his position as VP to help the son get his job and protect him from investigation, it will show that Trump was right in his concern for corruption to ask the Ukraine to investigate the Bidens. That mentioning the Bidens wasn't because he was a political rival but rather cause Trump was really focused on cleaning up the Ukriane as part of releasing the money

That is the supposed reason, in reality, it is just a deflection, and as I noted above, they see Biden saying something that they can turn into umpteen conspiracies to discredit him politically

Pretending that were true, it does not make what tRump did legal or right. If tRump had evidence to suspect criminality, he should have gone to his justice department, not extort a foreign nation. Thus its not relevant to a trial regarding what tRump is charged with.

IT would be relevant in a trial against Hunter Biden.

 

[ThatOwlWoman]

 

[Noking]

Moscow Mitch plans on quelling the impeachment trial, as quickly and quietly as possible to limit the damage to Trump.

 

[Jarod]

Biden and Son are dirty.

We will see how dirty in the trial.

They could be dirty as sin, it is not relevant to what Trump is charged with.

It would be relevant to charging the Bidens, why is the Trump justice department not investigating the Biden's?

 

[Grokmaster]

Not that this should surprise ANYONE; if it weren';t for DOUBLE STANDARDS, the STALIN-O-CRATS would have NO STANDARDS AT ALL.

SCHUMER NOT ONLY DECLARED THAT WITNESSES in THE SENATE TRIAL, WOULD JUST BE "THEATER"...has, NOT SURPRISINGLY CHANGED HIS TUNE on THAT POINT.

IN addition, SCHUMER ALSO SAID IN 1999, THAT IS WAS NATURAL FOR THE SENATE DEMS TO COORDINATE WITH THE (Then-CLINTON) WHITE HOUSE, "BECAUSE THE PRESIDENT IS THE DEFENDANT IN THE TRIAL"....




Schumer panned Clinton impeachment testimony as ‘theater,’ now seeks 4 witnesses in Trump trial


Senate Democratic Leader Chuck Schumer has called for several current and former Trump administration officials to be subpoenaed to testify in the chamber's likely impeachment trial for President Trump.


Yet, during former President Bill Clinton’s impeachment trial in 1999, Schumer, D-N.Y., roundly dismissed the importance of, and voted against, such witness testimony -- suggesting it amounted to "political theater."


“It seems to me that no good case has been made for witnesses,” Schumer said during a press conference on Jan. 27, 1999.

Days later, he argued that there was no reason to call witnesses, saying: “I wonder if the House managers aren’t a little more interested in political theater than in actually getting to the bottom of the facts.”

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/sch...in-trump-trial

 

[ThatOwlWoman]

Oops, no fair trial, nothing to see here, folks.
~~~
BREAKING NEWS

Mitch McConnell rejected Democrats’ demands to call Mick Mulvaney, John Bolton and other key aides as witnesses during a Senate impeachment trial.
Tuesday, December 17, 2019 11:04 AM EST

On the eve of a House vote on Wednesday that is all but certain to result in President Trump’s impeachment on two charges, Mr. McConnell said he would not agree to call the witnesses — all of whom have firsthand knowledge of Mr. Trump’s dealings with Ukraine.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/17/us/politics/trump-impeachment.html

 

[Darth Omar]

Hello Darth,



Trump is not a successful President. He struggles to get 45% approval with an economy that would have *ANY* other President soaring in approval up to 70% or more. There is a reason for that. He is not a good leader. He may have been able to insult his way into the office by some fluke of circumstances, but he cannot insult his way into the hearts and minds of most Americans.

Even among his supporters are many who dislike him.

And you can bet that those who do not support him do not like him.

He is a jerk. He has no class. He is rejected by truly popular people.

Good think I didn’t vote for Trump to win Mr. Congeniality lol.

Also, I wonder what Trump’s numbers would be without the fake Trump/Russian Hoax?

 

[Getin the ring]

Oops, no fair trial, nothing to see here, folks.
~~~
BREAKING NEWS

Mitch McConnell rejected Democrats’ demands to call Mick Mulvaney, John Bolton and other key aides as witnesses during a Senate impeachment trial.
Tuesday, December 17, 2019 11:04 AM EST

On the eve of a House vote on Wednesday that is all but certain to result in President Trump’s impeachment on two charges, Mr. McConnell said he would not agree to call the witnesses — all of whom have firsthand knowledge of Mr. Trump’s dealings with Ukraine.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/17/us/politics/trump-impeachment.html

I do sincerely hope Democrats are starting to get the message, obviously you havn't.

you can't fix stupid so please forgive us for not trying

 

[archives]

Good think I didn’t vote for Trump to win Mr. Congeniality lol.

Also, I wonder what Trump’s numbers would be without the fake Trump/Russian Hoax?

Now Russian involvement in the 2016 election is a hoax again? We back to the kid in Jersey?

His numbers would be the same, Americans genuinely don't like Trump, they recognize him as the unethical individual that he is regardless of events, which is the reason he has to keep muddling every issue to create the possibility of "alternate facts"

 

[Getin the ring]

Now Russian involvement in the 2016 election is a hoax again? We back to the kid in Jersey?

His numbers would be the same, Americans genuinely don't like Trump, they recognize him as the unethical individual that he is regardless of events, which is the reason he has to keep muddling every issue to create the possibility of "alternate facts"

304-227

 

[Darth Omar]

Oops, no fair trial, nothing to see here, folks.
~~~
BREAKING NEWS

Mitch McConnell rejected Democrats’ demands to call Mick Mulvaney, John Bolton and other key aides as witnesses during a Senate impeachment trial.
Tuesday, December 17, 2019 11:04 AM EST

On the eve of a House vote on Wednesday that is all but certain to result in President Trump’s impeachment on two charges, Mr. McConnell said he would not agree to call the witnesses — all of whom have firsthand knowledge of Mr. Trump’s dealings with Ukraine.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/17/us/politics/trump-impeachment.html

Is it ok if Republicans call people who have first hand knowledge of any coordination between the WB, the WB lawyer and democrats on the House Intelligence Committee lol.

What’s there to hide?

Besides, see my sig.

 

[ThatOwlWoman]

Is it ok if Republicans call people who have first hand knowledge of any coordination between the WB, the WB lawyer and democrats on the House Intelligence Committee lol.

What’s there to hide?

Besides, see my sig.

The WB is just another in a long line of distractions by the Reichwing Screech Machine. There is no reason for him/her to testify or be outed as everything in his/her report has already been verified by credible witnesses, some of whom were present during the fateful phone call.

You guys always seem to forget that without the impeachable offenses contained in that phone call, which led to the discovery of other attempts to secure personal political gain, there would be no impeachment.

 

[Darth Omar]

Now Russian involvement in the 2016 election is a hoax again? We back to the kid in Jersey?

His numbers would be the same, Americans genuinely don't like Trump, they recognize him as the unethical individual that he is regardless of events, which is the reason he has to keep muddling every issue to create the possibility of "alternate facts"

Trying to conflate the Russian investigation with the *Demonstrably Hoax* Trump/Russian investigation—and not think I’d notice lol?

There was every reason for the latter to be dropped and they didn’t drop it. Why? Maybe because it would keep Trump’s poll numbers?

Do you honestly think 3 years of the media fantasizing about Russian collusion ‘helped his poll numbers’?

 

[Callinectes]

If the Senate conducts a fair and through trial with witnesses such as mulvaney, and Bolton... Trump will be removed.

It's probably in this thread somewhere, but why didn't schifty wait until this issue made it's way through the courts? I mean, this is the most heinous affront to 'murica since...well, I don't care really, but you leftards sure seem a bit spun up about it. Why wouldn't you guys want to take it slowly and deliberately and maybe stand a chance of actually convicting and removing him? Oh, one more thing! How many witnesses were called in the clinton senate trial?

 

[Stretch]

If the Senate conducts a fair and through trial with witnesses such as mulvaney, and Bolton... Trump will be removed.

You guys already had your kangaroo court trial and decided to impeach. You blew it. Senate will acquit. The end. Get over it.

 

[Stretch]

It's the House's job to create. It's the Senate's job to judge.