Monad Portal
Was it me?
do you deny you said it?
I don't do busy work.
and on the second part, dumbest shit ever.
If God were real, you wouldn’t need a book
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I don't do busy work.
and on the second part, dumbest shit ever.
Post the exact quote where I said exactly what you claimed I said.
Monad Portal
Was it me?
^^ Unable to provide the quote that would prove his claim.
Monad Portal
Was it me?
^^hasn't even denied he said it.
Monad Portal
Was it me?
oh it is what you said.
I'm still not getting it.
people can look on their own.
you're a real fool's fool.
I can't invest time with people who have the attention span of a goldfish and can't remember what was written five minutes ago.
Monad Portal
Was it me?
I trust those who care will find the truth on their own.
you said math was created by the big bang.
dumbest shit ever.
ZenMode
Well-known member
Correct and those claiming gods exist, based on nothing but iron age stories, haven't come close to meeting the burden of proof. Me saying "gods don't exist" is just another way of saying "Those who believe in gods haven't proven they exist".
The burden on me isn't to prove gods don't exist. If 'negative proofs' were how we operate, then it would be on you, or anyone else, to prove there isn't a island of magical rainbow unicorns in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean and we'd all just have to believe that such an island exists, since none of us is able to prove every square miles of the Atlantic Ocean isn't inhabited by magical rainbow unicorns.
ZenMode
Well-known member
You're confusing "Explaining how things are" with "Things were designed that way".That's not what I said.
But I have been asking militant atheists to explain to me how this kind of lawful organization and rationality could be caused by random chance and purely inanimate, irrational physical reasons.
Also, there's nothing "organized" about that.
Explain exactly why matter and energy would move, behave, and interact according to precise mathematical principles, and what exactly caused that to happen.
p.s. Just throwing your hands up in the air and blurting out "well, that's just the way it is!" is not an intellectually adequate or satisfying answer.
Monad Portal
Was it me?
just because you bit off an impossible idiotic task doesn't mean others should.
ZenMode
Well-known member
I agree that most events aren't random, but that isn't the same as saying they were "designed". You can write an equation for basically anything that lawfully happens in the universe, regardless of how messy and complicated it is.
I almost exclusively have said the universe is mathematically rational and lawfully organized. I've tried to steer clear for the most part saying that it's designed.
That's not an explanation for why inert and inanimate matter and would behave and interact according to very precise mathematical principles. You can't just sweep that under the rug.
Leaving aside the question of why matter and energy even exists in the first place, why wouldn't matter and energy just behave chaotically and unpredictably? You would never expect random chance and irrational and inanimate causes to imbue precise organization and rational mathematical principles on a system.
^^^ Translation: there is no explanation for the cause of a mathematically rational and lawfully organized universe. But somehow, atheists believe it is certain there in no rational agency involved or underlying it all
This worldview of "I don't know" on the one hand, followed up by "I am certain" on the other hand is pure cognitive dissonance and mental confusion.
Monad Portal
Was it me?
you're just fucking dumb.
Monad Portal
Was it me?
he's so fucking dumb.
Into the Night
Verified User
This is YOUR paradox, Void. You cannot argue both sides of a paradox. You cannot clear your paradox by blaming it on someone else.
Into the Night
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God is not Pharaoh.