Grand Collusion to Bring Down Trump

anatta said:
I wouldn't call the Deep State "left" although the left is suffering from severe Russia-phobia like the DS ..
but I think that's more a marriage of convenience because of Trump
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Ya think lol?

The left doesn't give two hoots about Russia. Had Hillary won and she attempted another Russian reset the left would be singing a different tune about Russia. Guaranteed.

Ironically, the left has become the useful idiots of the warmongers on the right. Look how they drool over John McCain.

Never thought I'd see that marriage.
 
domer76 said:
They didn’t pay for opposition research. What their OFFER was, was to pay Steele for his continued investigation into Russian activities. Why? Because he had been found to be a credible resource in the past.

Keep flailing, desperates. It truly is amusing.
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but what was the basis for the Steele dossier? Op Research. Once they saw such salacious crap that only a dweez would dream up like Trump getting prostitutes to pee on the bed -WTF would they want any part of it?

Steele was being fed by the Kremlin, or FSB ex-agents. They were feeding him just enough legit so they could feed him garbage.
The real problem with all this is it was a basis ( if not the only one) for the FBI's Intelligence investigation
 
Darth Omar said:
Ya think lol?

The left doesn't give two hoots about Russia. Had Hillary won and she attempted another Russian reset the left would be singing a different tune about Russia. Guaranteed.

Ironically, the left has become the useful idiots of the warmongers on the right. Look how they drool over John McCain.

Never thought I'd see that marriage.
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good point..If she had won, we'd likely be doing another Russian reset.
But since Trump brought up bettering relations..oh no..back to Russiaphobia
 
If the Russians are so dangerous to America why on earth would anyone give them 1/5th of our Uranium?
interesting quagmire liberal loons find themselves in these days
 
anatta said:
Well over a year after the FBI began investigating "collusion" between the Trump campaign and Vladimir Putin, Special Counsel Robert Mueller has brought in his first major indictment.

Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort has been charged with a series of crimes dating back years, though none is tied directly to President Donald Trump or 2016.

With a leak to CNN that indictments were coming, Mueller's office stole the weekend headlines. This blanketed the explosive news on a separate front, as the dots began to be connected on a bipartisan plot to bring down Trump that began two years ago.

And like "Murder of the Orient Express," it seems almost everyone on the train had a hand in the plot.

The narrative begins in October 2015.


Then it was that the Washington Free Beacon, a neocon website, engaged a firm of researchers called Fusion GPS to do deep dirt-diving into Trump's personal and professional life -- and take him out.

A spinoff of Bill Kristol's The Weekly Standard, the Beacon is run by his son-in-law. And its Daddy Warbucks is the GOP oligarch and hedge fund billionaire Paul Singer.

From October 2015 to May 2016, Fusion GPS dug up dirt for the neocons and never-Trumpers.
By May, however, Trump had routed all rivals and was the certain Republican nominee.

So the Beacon bailed, and Fusion GPS found two new cash cows to finance its dirt-diving -- the DNC and the Clinton campaign.


To keep the sordid business at arm's length, both engaged the party's law firm of Perkins Coie. Paid $12.4 million by the DNC and Clinton campaign, Perkins used part of this cash hoard to pay Fusion GPS.

Here is where it begins to get interesting.

In June 2016, Fusion GPS engaged a British spy, Christopher Steele, who had headed up the Russia desk at MI6, to ferret out any connections between Trump and Russia.

Among the allegations was that Trump had consorted with prostitutes at a Moscow hotel, that the Kremlin was blackmailing him, that there was provable collusion.

Steele began contacting old acquaintances in the FSB, the Russian intelligence service.
And the Russians began to feed him astonishing dirt on Trump that could, if substantiated, kill his candidacy.

Among the allegations was that Trump had consorted with prostitutes at a Moscow hotel, that the Kremlin was blackmailing him, that there was provable collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia.

In memos from June to October 2016, Steele passed this on to Fusion GPS, which passed it on to major U.S. newspapers. But as the press was unable to verify it, they declined to publish it.

Steele's final product, a 35-page dossier, has been described as full of "unsubstantiated and salacious allegations."

Steele's research, however, had also made its way to James Comey's FBI, which was apparently so taken with it that the bureau considered paying Steele to continue his work.

About this "astonishing" development, columnist Byron York of the Washington Examiner quotes Sen. Chuck Grassley:


The questions begin to pile up.

1. What was the FBI's relationship with the British spy who was so wired into Russian intelligence?

2. Did the FBI use the information Steele dug up to expand its own investigation of Russia-Trump "collusion"? Did the FBI pass what Steele unearthed to the White House and the National Security Council?

3. Did the Obama administration use the information from the Steele dossier to justify unmasking the names of Trump officials that had been picked up on legitimate electronic intercepts?

In testimony before the Senate Intelligence Committee, Clinton campaign chair John Podesta and DNC chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz claimed they did not know that Perkins Coie had enlisted Fusion GPA or the British spy to dig up dirt on Trump.

Yet, when Podesta testified, the lawyer sitting beside him in the committee room was Marc Elias of Perkins Coie, who had engaged Fusion GPS and received the fruits of Steele's undercover work.

Here one is tempted to cite Bismarck that, if you wish to enjoy politics or sausages, you should not inquire too closely how they are made.

Thus we have Free Beacon neocons, never-Trump Republicans, the Hillary Clinton campaign, the DNC, a British spy and comrades in Russian intelligence, and perhaps the FBI/Deep State, all working with secret money and seedy individuals to destroy a candidate they could not defeat in a free election.

If future revelations demonstrate that this is what went down, it is not only the White House that has major problems.

If you wish to know why Americans detest politics and hate the "swamp" that has been made of their capital city, follow this story all the way to its inevitable end. It will be months of unfolding.

The real indictment here is of the American political system, and the true tragedy is the decline of the Old Republic.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/a...other_plot_--_to_bring_down_trump_135406.html
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Of course liberals can't be bothered with the welfare of the Republic, as the stunted perverts are too busy getting their own shit done.
 
katzgar said:
actually you didnt but I am sure you know that
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from OP
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the questions begin to pile up.

1. What was the FBI's relationship with the British spy who was so wired into Russian intelligence?

2. Did the FBI use the information Steele dug up to expand its own investigation of Russia-Trump "collusion"? Did the FBI pass what Steele unearthed to the White House and the National Security Council?

3. Did the Obama administration use the information from the Steele dossier to justify unmasking the names of Trump officials that had been picked up on legitimate electronic intercepts?
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Post 2 has more - surely you see these?
 
anatta said:
from OP
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the questions begin to pile up.

1. What was the FBI's relationship with the British spy who was so wired into Russian intelligence?

2. Did the FBI use the information Steele dug up to expand its own investigation of Russia-Trump "collusion"? Did the FBI pass what Steele unearthed to the White House and the National Security Council?

3. Did the Obama administration use the information from the Steele dossier to justify unmasking the names of Trump officials that had been picked up on legitimate electronic intercepts?
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Post 2 has more - surely you see these?
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You're addressing a DEMOCRAT, Anatta.
 
anatta said:
but what was the basis for the Steele dossier? Op Research. Once they saw such salacious crap that only a dweez would dream up like Trump getting prostitutes to pee on the bed -WTF would they want any part of it?

Steele was being fed by the Kremlin, or FSB ex-agents. They were feeding him just enough legit so they could feed him garbage.
The real problem with all this is it was a basis ( if not the only one) for the FBI's Intelligence investigation
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The original hire by the law firm was op. research. But that’s not what the FBI wanted to hire him for, no matter how much you wish to believe that. But, they never did, did they?

You’re also guessing on the rest.
 
anatta said:
from OP
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the questions begin to pile up.

1. What was the FBI's relationship with the British spy who was so wired into Russian intelligence?

2. Did the FBI use the information Steele dug up to expand its own investigation of Russia-Trump "collusion"? Did the FBI pass what Steele unearthed to the White House and the National Security Council?

3. Did the Obama administration use the information from the Steele dossier to justify unmasking the names of Trump officials that had been picked up on legitimate electronic intercepts?
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Post 2 has more - surely you see these?
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how about some questions pertaining to conservative initiating the dossier research?
 
domer76 said:
The original hire by the law firm was op. research. But that’s not what the FBI wanted to hire him for, no matter how much you wish to believe that. But, they never did, did they?

You’re also guessing on the rest.
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we know Steele was in contact with both FSB and ex-FSB
The dossier is a bunch of junk ( unless you believe Pissgate,which even the IC has said is salacious and unverified)..

Why would the FBI literally offer to buy into this?

Because they are so blinded by Russiaphobia,and hating the idea of a rapproachment with Russia-
which Trump was hinting at during the campaign.

Just like the neocons hate Russia, and Hillary has turned into a Russiaphobic as a convenient excuse for why she lost.
The grand collusion when you add in Congressional weasels
 
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