Good article from Forbes: Tax cuts DO NOT create jobs

[zappasguitar]

1. your first "example" was wrong or a lie. why do you continue to insist your first example is correct?


quite different than your claim as to why his show went off the air. there was nothing about bush's admin, and nothing about being unamerican. but do keep on lying that your first example is the truth.

2. your second example is nothing but your OPINION. you have not provided one single "cite" as requested.

3. from now on, when zappa ask for a link or a cite, we can give him solely OPINIONS, because he has now established that opinions, alone, are sufficient to prove a point.

Are you seriously going to try and pretend it's my "opinion" that MSNBC fired Donahue for his anti-war opinions following 9/11?

They themselves admit as much.

I don't expect something as trivial as FACTS getting in the way of your hatred for me, but those who aren't blinded by their rage will be able to check for themselves and see it's the truth.

 

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Are you seriously going to try and pretend it's my "opinion" that MSNBC fired Donahue for his anti-war opinions following 9/11?

They themselves admit as much.

I don't expect something as trivial as FACTS getting in the way of your hatred for me, but those who aren't blinded by their rage will be able to check for themselves and see it's the truth.

1. why are ignoring your first example? is it because i proved you wrong?

2. i'm not pretending anything. you made the claim, back it up. remember, your claim:

Let's not forget what Conservatives did to ANYONE who spoke out against the suspicious intelligence presented to make the case for WMD's...they were immediately branded as Anti-American.

so far, you haven't been able to prove your claim. in fact, i have shown your first example is either a lie or wrong.

do you know what the word "cite" means?

 

[zappasguitar]

1. why are ignoring your first example? is it because i proved you wrong?

2. i'm not pretending anything. you made the claim, back it up. remember, your claim:



so far, you haven't been able to prove your claim. in fact, i have shown your first example is either a lie or wrong.

do you know what the word "cite" means?

Yes, as you do also, and you know I have done just that...it's your blind hatred for me that prevents you from admitting I am right...nothing more.

 

[zappasguitar]

Yes, as you do also, and you know I have done just that...it's your blind hatred for me that prevents you from admitting I am right...nothing more.

I don't know what I bother...it's never good enough for a mind reader like the Amazing Yurskin, but here's more proof:

"Although Donahue didn't know it at the time, his fate was sealed a number of weeks ago after NBC News executives received the results of a study commissioned to provide guidance on the future of the news channel.

That report--shared with me by an NBC news insider--gives an excruciatingly painful assessment of the channel and its programming. Some of recommendations, such as dropping the "America's News Channel," have already been implemented. But the harshest criticism was leveled at Donahue, whom the authors of the study described as "a tired, left-wing liberal out of touch with the current marketplace."

The study went on to claim that Donahue presented a "difficult public face for NBC in a time of war......He seems to delight in presenting guests who are anti-war, anti-Bush and skeptical of the administration's motives." The report went on to outline a possible nightmare scenario where the show becomes "a home for the liberal antiwar agenda at the same time that our competitors are waving the flag at every opportunity."

A source close to Donahue claims that while he wasn't aware of the specific study, the tone and outcome aren't surprising.

"It's not a coincidence that this decision comes the same week that MSNBC announces its hired Dick Armey as a commentator and has both Jesse Ventura and Michael Savage joining the network as hosts. They're scared, and they decided to take the coward's road and slant towards the conservative crowd that watch Fox News."

 

[Damocles]

I'm not sure if tax cuts directly affect the job market, but I would say at this point that fiscal responsibility in general will definitely affect hiring, especially now. The gov't's efforts to balance the budget in the '90's helped that boom. It inspired more confidence among investors; when venture capitalists are putting their money into start-ups & other business opportunities, people hire.

I think there is a general feeling after the past decade that things are just out of control. The spending bills in the Bush admin started things rolling, then the wars, & so on & so on. There has been very little talk of cutting meaningful spending, or balancing the budget.

The ship isn't going to just right itself on its own at this point. We can't just raise taxes on the rich & hope for the best. Investors have no confidence at this point that gov't has any clue regarding some sort of return to fiscal responsibility.

We agree.

 

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I don't know what I bother...it's never good enough for a mind reader like the Amazing Yurskin, but here's more proof:

"Although Donahue didn't know it at the time, his fate was sealed a number of weeks ago after NBC News executives received the results of a study commissioned to provide guidance on the future of the news channel.

That report--shared with me by an NBC news insider--gives an excruciatingly painful assessment of the channel and its programming. Some of recommendations, such as dropping the "America's News Channel," have already been implemented. But the harshest criticism was leveled at Donahue, whom the authors of the study described as "a tired, left-wing liberal out of touch with the current marketplace."

The study went on to claim that Donahue presented a "difficult public face for NBC in a time of war......He seems to delight in presenting guests who are anti-war, anti-Bush and skeptical of the administration's motives." The report went on to outline a possible nightmare scenario where the show becomes "a home for the liberal antiwar agenda at the same time that our competitors are waving the flag at every opportunity."

A source close to Donahue claims that while he wasn't aware of the specific study, the tone and outcome aren't surprising.

"It's not a coincidence that this decision comes the same week that MSNBC announces its hired Dick Armey as a commentator and has both Jesse Ventura and Michael Savage joining the network as hosts. They're scared, and they decided to take the coward's road and slant towards the conservative crowd that watch Fox News."

1. i see you've run away from your first claim. smart choice.

2. nothing you highlighted proves your claim - Let's not forget what Conservatives did to ANYONE who spoke out against the suspicious intelligence presented to make the case for WMD's...they were immediately branded as Anti-American.

3. i don't see the word "anti-american" anywhere.

4. why is it you can't find a single source to substantiate your claim?

 

[Damocles]

Taxation compared to annual per-capita GDP growth in the OECD countries from over a 30 year period.

Unemployment compared to tax rate in the states.

Again, if it exists at all, it's difficult to distinguish it from noise.

We need all the dots labeled.

 

[USFREEDOM911]

We need all the dots labeled.

The top one looked like a winged horsey; but the second one is confusing.

 

[Bfgrn]

the article ignores history which prove tax cuts have created jobs. not all the time, but it is simply untrue to claim tax cuts do not create jobs. the author also ignore tax cuts to individuals. put more money in our pockets and most spend more money, which spurs the economy and as a result, more often than not, jobs.

further, do you not realize that the stimulus included tax cuts. if you believe the author, then obama and the dems are idiots and just wasted hundreds of millions of dollars, but you blame republicans. if you believe the author, then the dems and obama are at fault for including hundreds of millions of dollars in tax cuts. are you now going to stop being a partisan shill and hold obama and the dems responsible for "NOT" creating jobs?

Econ 101...demand side tax cuts (Obama) rests on the Keynesian theory that public consumption spurs economic activity. Government puts money in people's hands, as a temporary measure, so that they'll spend it. A supply-side cut (Reagan, Bush) sees business investment as the key to growth. Government gives money to businesses and wealthy individuals to invest, ultimately benefiting all Americans.

One works and one failed MISERABLY. The Stimulus created in 3 months what Bush created in 8 YEARS.

The Congressional Budget Office estimates the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act, also known as the stimulus bill, "increased the number of people employed by between 1.4 million and 3.3 million" in the second quarter of 2010 alone. The budget office also states that well over half a million jobs were funded in each of the other three quarters of 2010.

Bush On Jobs: The Worst Track Record On Record

By WSJ Staff

President George W. Bush entered office in 2001 just as a recession was starting, and is preparing to leave in the middle of a long one. That’s almost 22 months of recession during his 96 months in office.

His job-creation record won’t look much better. The Bush administration created about three million jobs (net) over its eight years, a fraction of the 23 million jobs created under President Bill Clinton‘s administration and only slightly better than President George H.W. Bush did in his four years in office.

Here’s a look at job creation under each president since the Labor Department started keeping payroll records in 1939. The counts are based on total payrolls between the start of the month the president took office (using the final payroll count for the end of the prior December) and his final December in office.

Because the size of the economy and labor force varies, we also calculate in percentage terms how much the total payroll count expanded under each president. The current President Bush, once taking account how long he’s been in office, shows the worst track record for job creation since the government began keeping records.

WSJ