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where is the data that shows tax cuts do not create jobs?
Good article from Forbes: Tax cuts DO NOT create jobs
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where is the data that shows tax cuts do not create jobs?
Well.............it all started way way back when I myself was a proud Democrat....back when Democrats were actually the friends of the working class and told the truth......
"It is a paradoxical truth that tax rates are too high and tax revenues are too low and the soundest way to raise the revenues in the long run is to cut the rates now ... Cutting taxes now is not to incur a budget deficit, but to achieve the more prosperous, expanding economy which can bring a budget surplus."
– John F. Kennedy, Nov. 20, 1962, president's news conference
"Lower rates of taxation will stimulate economic activity and so raise the levels of personal and corporate income as to yield within a few years an increased – not a reduced – flow of revenues to the federal government."
– John F. Kennedy, Jan. 17, 1963, annual budget message to the Congress, fiscal year 1964
So you think tax rates are as high now as they were then?
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dune?
zappasguitar
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When the Bush tax cuts took effect in 2003 the unemployment rate was 6.2 percent. Now, in the ninth year of those cuts, the unemployment rate is 9.2 percent.
Seems pretty clear to me...
zappasguitar
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Please compare the tax rates during the Kennedy presidency with those of the past decade...what was the top tax rate in 62?
How about in 2010?
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so your contention is the bush tax cuts are directly responsible for today's unemployment?
you are truly economically illiterate.
I know pinheads have their own version of history but really Zippy....get a clue....
Maybe you forget what Democrats said about WMD...Onecell would benefit from a little history lesson also....
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the more accurate question comparison would be the effective tax rate
zappasguitar
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Democrats had to rely on the fabrications created by the Bush War Machine that had doctored intelligence in order to drum up support for the war they were preparing for.
Let's not forget what Conservatives did to ANYONE who spoke out against the suspicious intelligence presented to make the case for WMD's...they were immediately branded as Anti-American.
The VERY FIRST TIME I read Rummy's comment "we know Iraq has WMD's, we know exactly where they are kept" they just couldn't say where due to "security reasons" I KNEW he was lying.
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zappasguitar
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Remember Bill Maher? Remember "Politically Incorrect"?
Conservatives got Bill Maher yanked off the air for questioning the Bush administration and being "un-American".
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bullshit, you're lying. and you said "anyone". more people than bill maher spoke out. you just got busted in yet another partisan fib. par for the course for you.
In the aftermath of the September 11 attacks on the World Trade Center and elsewhere, U.S. President George W. Bush said that the terrorists responsible were cowards (included in the September 11 attacks was the crash of American Airlines Flight 77, upon which frequent guest Barbara Olson was traveling to a Politically Incorrect taping; Maher left a panel chair empty for a week afterwards). On Politically Incorrect's September 17 show, Maher's guest Dinesh D'Souza disputed Bush's label, saying the terrorists were warriors.[4] Maher agreed, and according to a transcript replied "We have been the cowards, lobbing cruise missiles from 2,000 miles away. That's cowardly. Staying in the airplane when it hits the building, say what you want about it, it's not cowardly".[4]
While similar comments had been made in other media, Maher's comments became a major controversy.[4] Some advertisers withdrew their support and some ABC affiliates stopped airing the show temporarily.[4] White House press secretary Ari Fleischer denounced Maher, warning that "people have to watch what they say and watch what they do."[5]
The show was canceled the following June, which Maher and many others saw as a result of the controversy, although ABC denied that the controversy was a factor and said the program was canceled due to declining ratings.[6][7][8] Maher said that the show struggled for advertisers in its final months.[9]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politically_Incorrect
ooooops
will zappa admit he was wrong or lying, or will he double down?
zappasguitar
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Here's another example...
While the Bush Administation was building it's case for war with Iraq, MSNBC cancelled it's show hosted by Phil Donahue. The network initially claimed it was due to low ratings, but later revealed that Donahue's anti-war stance was "problematic".
Donahue's replacement was Michael Savage, who stated the government should arrest the leaders of the anti-war movement.
That's TWO CITATIONS I've provided now...wonder if Yurt is EVER going to admit I am right?
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After years of tax cuts, the economy is in worse shape than ever, and Republicans still stamp their feet and claim that tax cuts do work, with no evidence whatsoever.
Hilarious.
Hilarious.
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1. how can you claim you've provided "two citations" when i thoroughly debunked your first one? good lord, how in the world can you be this dishonest? you can't avoid post 73. you either lied or were wrong.
2. i said "cite". you are only giving YOUR OPINION. apparently you're too stupid to know what cite means.
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/cite
look it up and when you finish reading it, go get an actual cite moron. until then, you are proven wrong.
zappasguitar
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WOW...the Amazing Yurskin doesn't accept the proof I provided...I am just stunned...it's so UNLIKE HIM!
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what "proof"? post 73 proves that maher losing his show had ZERO to do with your claim - "questioning the Bush administration and being "un-American".
your second example - still waiting for a "cite". i even gave you the definition and you still can't figure it out. until you give a citation, i've proven you either lied or are wrong.
sucks to be you. because only a dishonest partisan hack claims his opinion is "proof"
:lol:
zappasguitar
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I provided two examples of conservatives getting people fired for their opinions...if it isn't good enough for you that's YOUR problem, not mine.
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1. your first "example" was wrong or a lie. why do you continue to insist your first example is correct?
quite different than your claim as to why his show went off the air. there was nothing about bush's admin, and nothing about being unamerican. but do keep on lying that your first example is the truth.
2. your second example is nothing but your OPINION. you have not provided one single "cite" as requested.
3. from now on, when zappa ask for a link or a cite, we can give him solely OPINIONS, because he has now established that opinions, alone, are sufficient to prove a point.