CNN Poll: Double-digit post-speech jump for Obama plan

Mott the Hoople said:
As President maybe. His speech about race was the best I've heard him give to date. Isn't it amazing how he can sound like MLK with a midwest accent? His rhetorical style is damned similar.
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I have noticed the same thing. I tried to style my voice after Barbara S. because I loved her voice when she sang "People". Then my choir instructor told me just to use my own voice, it isn't Streisand, but it is good enough.
 
Damocles said:
Seriously? You think they are going to "thank this guy" for his slip..

That Americans are suddenly going to support the same HR 3200 that they wouldn't before because this guy was rude?
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I seriously think there will be some that do, but a very same fraction.
 
TurdFerguson said:
But they aren't covered. It's right there in the bill.
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Again, it isn't actually "in the bill" if there is no check. Zero. Nada. Not even one way to enforce that. They rejected the amendment that would have given that any force whatsoever. (I even gave you the information in the post you quoted). It may be with a "nod and a wink" but it is reality. The Amendment that would have given it the teeth that 71 other means-tested programs require was rejected on July 16th.
 
Damocles said:
Again, it isn't actually "in the bill" if there is no check. Zero. Nada. Not even one way to enforce that. They rejected the amendment that would have given that any force whatsoever. (I even gave you the information in the post you quoted). It may be with a "nod and a wink" but it is reality.
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You didn't give me any information you simply read the amendment that I linked to and think you have come up with some clever argument about how government will just be handing out money willy-nilly without following a law that says that no money can go to people here unlawfully unless the amendment were adopted. It doesn't work that way. The Republicans do this cutesy shit to give their specious arguments an air of plausibility but even they don't really buy into it.

It's cute, but it's bullshit. I'm not terribly surprised you're swayed by it.
 
TurdFerguson said:
You didn't give me any information you simply read the amendment that I linked to and think you have come up with some clever argument about how government will just be handing out money willy-nilly without following a law that says that no money can go to people here unlawfully unless the amendment were adopted. It doesn't work that way. The Republicans do this cutesy shit to give their specious arguments an air of plausibility but even they don't really buy into it.

It's cute, but it's bullshit. I'm not terribly surprised you're swayed by it.
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ZappasGuitar said:
Independents don't want the elderly??

That's a mighty callous attitude!

How do the elderly feel about independents?

Do elderly indenpedents not want themselves?

How does ID feel knowing the average fourth grader knows more about basic sentence structure?
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As usual you remove context. And before you critique my sentence structure morbidly fat disingenuous man, use a spell checker of some sort.
 
DNC said:
"Two out of three Americans who watched President Barack Obama's health care reform speech Wednesday night favor his health care plans — a 14-point gain among speech-watchers, according to a CNN/Opinion Research Corporation national poll"

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Only 18% were Republicans.
 
Our mainsteam media has become an enemy to the people..they are not reporting facts, only their opinion and agenda for the Hugo Obama and the Progressive party...as you can see with this lopsided polling by CNN...
 
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TurdFerguson said:
I still don't see how a bill that precludes illegals from obtaining and federal funds for health insurance is a problem for the Republicans
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because one of the problems of the current health care system is the fact that hospital bills reflect the losses incurred by service providers from those who do not or cannot pay their bills....

you can't "solve" health care by ignoring the cost of 17 million illegal aliens....
 
Damocles said:
Lies? In a bit less than 10 days HR 3200 is coming up for a vote, if it still includes insurance coverage for "undocumented visitors" then it was actually a "lie."
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Where is the evidence that it does contain coverage for "undocumented visitors"? Link/reference please.
 
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