CNN Poll: Double-digit post-speech jump for Obama plan

ZappasGuitar said:
Independents don't want the elderly??

That's a mighty callous attitude!

How do the elderly feel about independents?

Do elderly indenpedents not want themselves?

How does ID feel knowing the average fourth grader knows more about basic sentence structure?
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What are they going to do with them. We have Independents in Alaska! They will probably put them on ice bergs, again!
 
meme said:
good gawd, us American citizens are getting hosed royally..

not only now do they want us who work to take care of those who don't, but they also want us to work, to take care of our families, the poor who live here, and now the illegal immigrants..

what a country.
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Of course that's just an outright lie, but then we are dealing with mini-meme, who never met a lie she refused to spread.
 
Sixty-seven percent of people questioned in the survey say the support Obama's health care reform proposals that the president outlined in his address, with 29 percent opposed.
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I'm shocked to note that the percent who oppose the plan, is virtually the exact same percent that thought George Bush was doing a great job when he left office! :eek:
 
blackascoal said:
I agree that illegals are here and that issue needs to be addressed in healthcare.
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either HR 3200 addresses it, or it needs to be scrapped.....I think it "addresses" it in subterfuge...which is why the Dems continue to scrap any attempt to preclude coverage for illegals....which is why, by the way, Wright was correct when he called Obama a liar....
 
PostmodernProphet said:
either HR 3200 addresses it, or it needs to be scrapped.....I think it "addresses" it in subterfuge...which is why the Dems continue to scrap any attempt to preclude coverage for illegals....which is why, by the way, Wright was correct when he called Obama a liar....
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I still don't see how a bill that precludes illegals from obtaining and federal funds for health insurance is a problem for the Republicans when all their amendment would have done was to reiterate that illegal aliens can't get federal funds fro health insurance.

You basically want a bill that says illegals can't get health insurance at all, whether through government funds or not, which is just plain stupid (and not what the House Republicans proposed). Let's instead pass a bill that says illegal aliens are not permitted to purchase and goods or services in the United States. That makes about as much sense as what youre' talking about.

By the by, here is the relevant text of HR 3200:

Nothing in this subtitle shall allow Federal payments for affordability credits on behalf of individuals who are not lawfully present in the United States.
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That covers it. Illegal aliens get no federal funds to obtain insurance. That the Republicans wanted "better verification of eligibility for benefits under the bill" with respect to illegal aliens does not change that fact.

For those interested, here is the proposed Republican amendment that was defeated:

http://republicans.waysandmeans.house.gov/UploadedFiles/Heller_Amdt_Text.pdf
 
Damocles said:
I think you are delusional. This outburst was lame and rude, but not the landmark of anything at all. The guy won't even lose his job.

The "tipping point" will be when people realize that it is still HR 3200, "Undocumented Visitors" are covered, "Pregnancy Reversals" are covered... and the lame and rude "you lie" outburst will be less than a footnote.
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It's easy to get the numbers you want when you poll more than twice as many people who already support the plan than those who don't.

Asfor covering illegal immigrants, they won't be illegal once amnesty is granted. And don't for one second think that proposal is not in the que.
 
PostmodernProphet said:
either HR 3200 addresses it, or it needs to be scrapped.....I think it "addresses" it in subterfuge...which is why the Dems continue to scrap any attempt to preclude coverage for illegals....which is why, by the way, Wright was correct when he called Obama a liar....
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There is a reason why they reject the Amendments to use the Systematic Alien Verification for Entitlements (SAVE) program, and it isn't because they don't think they'd be covered.
 
"Two out of three Americans who watched President Barack Obama's health care reform speech Wednesday night favor his health care plans — a 14-point gain among speech-watchers, according to a CNN/Opinion Research Corporation national poll"

:party:
 
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