Ben Shapiro speaking at Cal

They have a clue, and they know the arguments. This isn't rocket science. What they are doing is grasping at straws.

The largest reason for economic disparity in this country is housing so it's "grasping at straws" to point out housing laws today that continue to perpetuate it? Ok
 
Gain validation by TTQ64 by calling her out? That's a weird way to try and impress someone

you aren't calling them out. You don't care that they baselessly call others racist, you only care that they call YOU racist


But keep groveling at their feet. I am sure they will give you validation soon enough. If BAC and TTQ saw you getting your ass beat by a black person they wouldn't do shit about it. that is what they think of you
 
everything from the right supports racism. All you have to do is follow it's origins.

That works but requires more work. Just show the effects. Deflection, yes exactly. It's funny how the ancillary claimed purpose of all or most all things
Republicans want or do has a deleterious impact on the powerless, outsiders, disadvantaged, minorities etc.

"But we want to lower taxes to jump start the economy" - the direct effect is to reduce direct payments to the poor.
"But we want the freedom from regulation of industry" the direct effect is to pollute the environment where the poor live, makes dangerous products poor people use more etc
"But we want to increase military spending" the direct effect is to reduce funds available for butter issues
"But we want to privatize social security" the direct effect to jeopardize the most successful and generally sole source of retirement wealth for poor and middle

on and on:palm: These people are evil.
 
you aren't calling them out. You don't care that they baselessly call others racist, you only care that they call YOU racist


But keep groveling at their feet. I am sure they will give you validation soon enough. If BAC and TTQ saw you getting your ass beat by a black person they wouldn't do shit about it. that is what they think of you

I won't speak for you but I generally don't call people unsophisticated, uneducated trash, which is what TTQ64 is, if I was trying to grovel to them.

And if not calling BAC racial names is grovelling to him then so be it
 
That works but requires more work. Just show the effects. Deflection, yes exactly. It's funny how the ancillary claimed purpose of all or most all things
Republicans want or do has a deleterious impact on the powerless, outsiders, disadvantaged, minorities etc.

"But we want to lower taxes to jump start the economy" - the direct effect is to reduce direct payments to the poor.
"But we want the freedom from regulation of industry" the direct effect is to pollute the environment where the poor live, makes dangerous products poor people use more etc
"But we want to increase military spending" the direct effect is to reduce funds available for butter issues
"But we want to privatize social security" the direct effect to jeopardize the most successful and generally sole source of retirement wealth for poor and middle

on and on:palm: These people are evil.

Progressive California has the highest poverty rate in the country. That's compassionate to you?
 
That works but requires more work. Just show the effects. Deflection, yes exactly. It's funny how the ancillary claimed purpose of all or most all things
Republicans want or do has a deleterious impact on the powerless, outsiders, disadvantaged, minorities etc.

"But we want to lower taxes to jump start the economy" - the direct effect is to reduce direct payments to the poor.
"But we want the freedom from regulation of industry" the direct effect is to pollute the environment where the poor live, makes dangerous products poor people use more etc
"But we want to increase military spending" the direct effect is to reduce funds available for butter issues
"But we want to privatize social security" the direct effect to jeopardize the most successful and generally sole source of retirement wealth for poor and middle

on and on:palm: These people are evil.

And, it's a all white party that's pushing these issues. I don't care what it's labeled, they all want the same evil results.
 
Assuming arguendo that's true, hurricane alley has the most hurricanes. Would it be compassionate to ax first responders?

So policies that give us the highest poverty rate are ok because they are done in the name of compassion.
 

"Under the official poverty measure, meanwhile, 14.5 percent of California residents live in poverty, down from 15 percent. That is 16th highest in the state and slightly above the 13.7 percent nationwide average in 2016.

Your own source. It is only the highest when California itself adjusted it up by adding in the cost of mansions and crsytal champagne. Poor people don't buy mansions or VIP party. Why aren't the other states providing a complete picture?
 
So policies that give us the highest poverty rate are ok because they are done in the name of compassion.

A quick check shows the claim is mostly false and you failed to apprehend the metaphor. Unless you are ready to admit policy causes hurricanes.
 
So policies that give us the highest poverty rate are ok because they are done in the name of compassion.

You're being obtuse........on purpose.

Poverty in CA or anywhere else in this country is not caused by "progressive laws in real estate", it's decades of institutional racism from the those on the right on every social, political and economical issue.
 
"Under the official poverty measure, meanwhile, 14.5 percent of California residents live in poverty, down from 15 percent. That is 16th highest in the state and slightly above the 13.7 percent nationwide average in 2016.

Your own source. It is only the highest when California itself adjusted it up by adding in the cost of mansions and crsytal champagne. Poor people don't buy mansions or VIP party. Why aren't the other states providing a complete picture?

Actually it was progressives who came up with the supplemental poverty measure as they said it provided a more accurate measure of poverty because in the real world you can't ignore cost of living.
 

Not when comparing apples to apples it doesn't. It's about in the middle. Anyway, it's one thing for a conservative to laud and applaud the freedom of capitalism, but it's another for one to lie about the causes of poverty. Poverty is a necessary consequence of freedom. Democratic policies tend to ameliorate what Republican policies necessarily cause. Why you ask? Because freedom of individuals making decisions including what they will do, how capital will be utilized, who will be hired, how many people will be hired, what color they will be, necessarily isolates winners from losers. So as a NECESSARY and INEVITABLE consequence of the freedoms we enjoy, there will NECESSARILY be a percentage of humans standing out in the cold holding their johnsons instead of working. They will do dumb things too, and make dumb choices like crime and drugs. But it ALL comes back to the society we have chosen, one largely based upon freedom of industry and competition. Show me competition for resources and I'll show you cheating.

So fuck them, their mothers and the collective horses they rode in on when they blame us for trying to reduce the suffering they cause, and they misassign us as the cause. FUCK THEM and THAT!
 
Actually it was progressives who came up with the supplemental poverty measure as they said it provided a more accurate measure of poverty because in the real world you can't ignore cost of living.

Right. It doesn't change oranges to apples now, does it. Dude, there is NOTHING under the sun that escapes my gaze. You give me an article, I'll read it and apprehend every nuance and fact once through.
 
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