Anyone still against the death penalty?

That doesn't really make sense. First, the love I get from the board is fairly all-encompassing; it's something I bask in on an almost-constant basis, in a wide variety of ways. I wasn't even thinking along the lines of something as trivial as "rep."

Second, even if we did distill it down to "rep points" and comments - which, I must say, I didn't think anyone took so seriously as you seem to - I noticed that I have lots of very nice ones from multitudes of posters on my l'il rep page.

Again, if that kind of stuff is important to you. So, no - it's not embarassing that Darla's just happened to be the last one posted.

LOL....your rep is finally higher than when you claimed the rest of the board LOVES you

congrats and enjoy your happinesss onceler :clink:
 
LOL....your rep is finally higher than when you claimed the rest of the board LOVES you

congrats and enjoy your happinesss onceler :clink:

Do you really check your "rep" all of the time?

Honestly, I wouldn't have been able to tell you if it was up, down or even, from any time.
 
Do you really check your "rep" all of the time?

Honestly, I wouldn't have been able to tell you if it was up, down or even, from any time.

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you were talking about YOUR rep....and it is clear you check it all the time as everytime i neg rep you and then the rest of the boardr counters my one little neg rep.....you hurry up and furiously post about it

lets see this again, because it just so funny...

...I am beloved by the rest of the board...
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you were talking about YOUR rep....and it is clear you check it all the time as everytime i neg rep you and then the rest of the boardr counters my one little neg rep.....you hurry up and furiously post about it

lets see this again, because it just so funny...

When was I furious?

And when did I say that the rest of the board counters your neg rep with good reps? I just said I was beloved, and the love of the board made me feel better after the devastation of your neg reps.

And I don't really check the #'s, at all. You seem to know both yours, and mine. It's weirdly obsessive, but also really interesting that someone here takes the rep thing so seriously.
 
it doesn't deter crime? lmao...

it costs more because the current system is fucked, that is not a reason to abolish the death penalty...some education districts are inept at costs and costs us more money that necessary, yet you wouldn't argue that we should abolish the entire education system

i say to them, it is a fucking tragedy and i can never understand their unique loss

what do you say to the father who lived in the OP? ooops, tough luck, your wife and two daughters got raped, but i care more about the rapists than your wife and daughter....

1) Connecticut HAS the death penalty...did it deter Steven Hayes? NO

2) The death penalty is escaping the decisive cost-benefit analysis to which every other program is being put in times of austerity. Rather than being posed as a single, but costly, alternative in a spectrum of approaches to crime, the death penalty operates at the extremes of political rhetoric. Candidates use the death penalty as a facile solution to crime which allows them to distinguish themselves by the toughness of their position rather than its effectiveness.

The death penalty is much more expensive than its closest alternative--life imprisonment with no parole. Capital trials are longer and more expensive at every step than other murder trials. Pre-trial motions, expert witness investigations, jury selection, and the necessity for two trials--one on guilt and one on sentencing--make capital cases extremely costly, even before the appeals process begins. Guilty pleas are almost unheard of when the punishment is death. In addition, many of these trials result in a life sentence rather than the death penalty, so the state pays the cost of life imprisonment on top of the expensive trial.

The high price of the death penalty is often most keenly felt in those counties responsible for both the prosecution and defense of capital defendants. A single trial can mean near bankruptcy, tax increases, and the laying off of vital personnel. Trials costing a small county $100,000 from unbudgeted funds are common and some officials have even gone to jail in resisting payment.
 
1) Connecticut HAS the death penalty...did it deter Steven Hayes? NO

2) The death penalty is escaping the decisive cost-benefit analysis to which every other program is being put in times of austerity. Rather than being posed as a single, but costly, alternative in a spectrum of approaches to crime, the death penalty operates at the extremes of political rhetoric. Candidates use the death penalty as a facile solution to crime which allows them to distinguish themselves by the toughness of their position rather than its effectiveness.

The death penalty is much more expensive than its closest alternative--life imprisonment with no parole. Capital trials are longer and more expensive at every step than other murder trials. Pre-trial motions, expert witness investigations, jury selection, and the necessity for two trials--one on guilt and one on sentencing--make capital cases extremely costly, even before the appeals process begins. Guilty pleas are almost unheard of when the punishment is death. In addition, many of these trials result in a life sentence rather than the death penalty, so the state pays the cost of life imprisonment on top of the expensive trial.

The high price of the death penalty is often most keenly felt in those counties responsible for both the prosecution and defense of capital defendants. A single trial can mean near bankruptcy, tax increases, and the laying off of vital personnel. Trials costing a small county $100,000 from unbudgeted funds are common and some officials have even gone to jail in resisting payment.

Yurtsie is still bloodthirsty!
 
UOTE=Bfgrn;713722]1) Connecticut HAS the death penalty...did it deter Steven Hayes? NO

strawman, no one said the death penalty will deter ALL crime....

2) The death penalty is escaping the decisive cost-benefit analysis to which every other program is being put in times of austerity. Rather than being posed as a single, but costly, alternative in a spectrum of approaches to crime, the death penalty operates at the extremes of political rhetoric. Candidates use the death penalty as a facile solution to crime which allows them to distinguish themselves by the toughness of their position rather than its effectiveness.

this is meaningless, though i understand its the best you can do

The death penalty is much more expensive than its closest alternative--life imprisonment with no parole. Capital trials are longer and more expensive at every step than other murder trials. Pre-trial motions, expert witness investigations, jury selection, and the necessity for two trials--one on guilt and one on sentencing--make capital cases extremely costly, even before the appeals process begins. Guilty pleas are almost unheard of when the punishment is death. In addition, many of these trials result in a life sentence rather than the death penalty, so the state pays the cost of life imprisonment on top of the expensive trial.

The high price of the death penalty is often most keenly felt in those counties responsible for both the prosecution and defense of capital defendants. A single trial can mean near bankruptcy, tax increases, and the laying off of vital personnel. Trials costing a small county $100,000 from unbudgeted funds are common and some officials have even gone to jail in resisting payment.
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maybe if you bothered to read posts you wouldn't have made this ridiculous rant
 
When was I furious?

And when did I say that the rest of the board counters your neg rep with good reps? I just said I was beloved, and the love of the board made me feel better after the devastation of your neg reps.

And I don't really check the #'s, at all. You seem to know both yours, and mine. It's weirdly obsessive, but also really interesting that someone here takes the rep thing so seriously.

your lies are seriously boring, why would you lie about something you said when i can easily pull it up

I am beloved by the rest of the board, so your painful, life-changing neg reps are more than offset...

you just said that because you are beloved by the rest of the board my reps are countered....

lol....you're so pathetic and angry, is darla holding out on you? thanks for making me laugh with your continued anger over my neg reps, i would have started neg repping you earlier had i known how much rep means to you
 
your lies are seriously boring, why would you lie about something you said when i can easily pull it up



you just said that because you are beloved by the rest of the board my reps are countered....

lol....you're so pathetic and angry, is darla holding out on you? thanks for making me laugh with your continued anger over my neg reps, i would have started neg repping you earlier had i known how much rep means to you

Looks pretty clear to me. The love of the board cheers me up after your neg reps devastate me...they're offset. Honestly, I didn't even know how things affected the "point system" until you started detailing your own obsession over "rep points."

Where have I displayed any anger? I'm quite calm. I think there is a little projection going on there, rep master....
 
I vaguely recall when you first repped me, too; you portrayed it as some kind of agonizing decision, and prefaced with something like "I really hate to do this, but you've given me no choice," like it was the biggest deal in the world.

What's the scoop with rep points, anyway? Can you win money or a trip or something? Why do you see them as so important?
 
LOL...two posts in a row about reputation, but it doesn't bother onceler :clink:

onceler is so beloved by the rest of the board that his reputation is in the red :cof1:

i've neg repped nigel twice because i thought it would bother him, but he never said a word about my reps, so i became bored and stopped neg repping him, but onceler, thank you for some mild entertainment....watching you get angry and whiny about my neg reps is fun!
 
strawman, no one said the death penalty will deter ALL crime....



this is meaningless, though i understand its the best you can do

maybe if you bothered to read posts you wouldn't have made this ridiculous rant[/QUOTE]

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Maybe what you need to do is educate yourself, because ALL you've done so far is emote.



Federal Costs
The average cost of defending a trial in a federal death case is $620,932, about 8 times that of a federal murder case in which the death penalty is not sought.

USA
Death Penalty Trials Very Costly Relative to County Budgets

Capital cases burden county budgets with large unexpected costs, according to a report released by the National Bureau of Economic Research, "The Budgetary Repercussions of Capital Convictions," by Katherine Baicker. Counties manage these high costs by decreasing funding for highways and police and by increasing taxes. The report estimates that between 1982-1997 the extra cost of capital trials was $1.6 billion.

California
The California Death Penalty System Costs Taxpayers More than $114 Million a Year

Report of the California Commission on the Fair Administration of Justice

“The additional cost of confining an inmate to death row, as compared to the maximum security prisons where those sentenced to life without possibility of parole ordinarily serve their sentences, is $90,000 per year per inmate. With California’s current death row population of 670, that accounts for $63.3 million annually.”

* Using conservative rough projections, the Commission estimates the annual costs of the present (death penalty) system to be $137 million per year.

* The cost of the present system with reforms recommended by the Commission to ensure a fair process would be $232.7 million per year.

* The cost of a system in which the number of death-eligible crimes was significantly narrowed would be $130 million per year.

* The cost of a system which imposes a maximum penalty of lifetime incarceration instead of the death penalty would be $11.5 million per year.

Maryland
New Study Reveals Maryland Pays $37 Million for One Execution

Washington
Report to Washington State Bar Association regarding cost

At the trial level, death penalty cases are estimated to generate roughly $470,000 in additional costs to the prosecution and defense over the cost of trying the same case as an aggravated murder without the death penalty.

New Jersey
Death Penalty has Cost New Jersey Taxpayers $253 Million

Tennessee
Study Finds Death penalty Costly, Ineffective

* Death penalty trials cost an average of 48% more than the average cost of trials in which prosecutors seek life imprisonment.

Kansas
Study Concludes Death Penalty is Costly Policy

In its review of death penalty expenses, the State of Kansas concluded that capital cases are 70% more expensive than comparable non-death penalty cases.

Indiana
A recent state analysis of the costs of the death penalty in Indiana found the average cost to a county for a trial and direct appeal in a capital case was over ten times more than a life-without-parole case.

North Carolina

Death Penalty Costs North Carolina Nearly $11 Million a Year

The two-year costs were summed up as follows:

Extra defense costs for capital cases in trial phase $13,180,385
Extra payments to jurors $224,640
Capital post-conviction costs $7,473,556
Resentencing hearings $594,216
Prison system $169,617
Total $21,642,414

Florida
Florida Spends Millions Extra per Year on Death Penalty

Texas
Texas death penalty cases cost more than non-capital cases

Each death penalty case in Texas costs taxpayers about $2.3 million.
 
I vaguely recall when you first repped me, too; you portrayed it as some kind of agonizing decision, and prefaced with something like "I really hate to do this, but you've given me no choice," like it was the biggest deal in the world.

What's the scoop with rep points, anyway? Can you win money or a trip or something? Why do you see them as so important?

Lil' Yurtsie sucks mod dick to get them added. It's the only positive in his pathetic life. Look at how much time he spends on message boards.

He has no time for a job, or a relationship.

What a loser.
 
LOL...two posts in a row about reputation, but it doesn't bother onceler :clink:

onceler is so beloved by the rest of the board that his reputation is in the red :cof1:

i've neg repped nigel twice because i thought it would bother him, but he never said a word about my reps, so i became bored and stopped neg repping him, but onceler, thank you for some mild entertainment....watching you get angry and whiny about my neg reps is fun!

Ah....2 posts in a row = being bothered? That's good to know. I think yesterday there was a thread where you posted something like 4-5 times in a row, so you must have been REALLY angry!

Neg rep away. I know the universal love I experience here is cause for jealousy in some; I can only imagine what it's like to be on the other side of that....
 
Ah....2 posts in a row = being bothered? That's good to know. I think yesterday there was a thread where you posted something like 4-5 times in a row, so you must have been REALLY angry!

Neg rep away. I know the universal love I experience here is cause for jealousy in some; I can only imagine what it's like to be on the other side of that....

He neg reps obsessively, then accuses others of being obsessed.
 
He neg reps obsessively, then accuses others of being obsessed.

I still don't really get the rep thing, and he wouldn't answer me in his blind rage. Can you win a car or something? I can't figure out why anyone really cares....
 
I still don't really get the rep thing, and he wouldn't answer me in his blind rage. Can you win a car or something? I can't figure out why anyone really cares....

Rep is meaningless, except to Yurtsie. Grind giveth, and Grind taketh away. Glory to Grind!
 
Ah....2 posts in a row = being bothered? That's good to know. I think yesterday there was a thread where you posted something like 4-5 times in a row, so you must have been REALLY angry!

Neg rep away. I know the universal love I experience here is cause for jealousy in some; I can only imagine what it's like to be on the other side of that....

I still don't really get the rep thing, and he wouldn't answer me in his blind rage. Can you win a car or something? I can't figure out why anyone really cares....

LOL...i like how this bothers you so much that you can't stop talking about my neg reps...

i can't believe how upset and pissy you are over my neg reps :)
 
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