Another shooting school, just another day in America

That's only going to work with those who obey the law.

The problem is that the people who have no regard for the law will ignore it...

This is the same “taking guns away from law biding people” rhetoric, Stephen Paddock, like many, were law bidding people right up until the moment they pulled the trigger
 
So you got two individuals, neither who ever had the powered to do what they said, again, it is not a question of confiscating guns, rather regulating guns

Both are top leaders; Saint Hillary and, in Texas, Beto. Why do you think Texas Democrats keep running him? Because he, like Hillary, mouths the right words.
 
That is CRAP I personally carried guns in my car trunk and knew several others that did the very same thing. It was common practice. You could walk in to Sears and buy a gun without even a background check, I bought a shotgun from them when I was 16. There wasn't even a federal age limit for gun purchase till 1968. I bought a German Mauser when I was 16 at the local GI Surplus for $23 no questions asked. You could order them out of magazines like Oswald did. It's two worker homes and bad parenting. There are a lot more disaffected kids out there because of bad parenting.

Two thoughts here, first I already gave you which you ignored, there wasn’t a proliferation of guns in the US when you were a kid, and regardless of the shooters background, if he wants a gun, he’ll get a gun, it’s that easy, and all the good parenting in the world ain’t going to change that fact
 
No I am saying the number of guns is irrelevant. Is "availability" argument you really want to make?

The U.S. is flooded with guns, most other developed nations, well, except those you seem pleased to being compared to, do not have anywhere near the number of guns in circulation largely due to regulation, and consequently, less homicides, it doesn’t take an Einstein to see the relationship.

Number of guns out there is very relevant, the easy access to the vast number of guns makes it relevant
 
there is not one scrap of historical evidence that indicates anything OTHER than the founders feared a new central government and sought to remove any power or authority of that new central government to infringe on the right of the people to keep and bear their own arms, semi-auto and auto included.

We’ve been thru this umpteen times, if they feared a central government that much why did they even create one, and, delegate it power?

And secondly, another facf you just can’t accept, until you can define the prefatory clause the whole “infringe ……..” thing is nebulous at best, and no one to date has been able to define the prefatory clause
 
Every year about 5000 teens commit suicide. About 50,000 Americans commit suicide. While I can understand why Democrats don't give a shit about the greater number since most are elderly white males, why they don't give a shit about the teens is a mystery.

https://www.sccenter.org/programs-and-services/for-teens/teen-suicide-facts/
Teen Suicide Facts
In the United States Suicide is the third leading cause of death of young people between the ages of 15 and 24.

  • 5,000 young people complete suicide in the U.S. each year.
  • Each year, there are approximately 10 youth suicides for every 100,000 youth.
  • Each day, there are approximately 12 youth suicides.
  • Every 2 hours and 11 minutes, a person under the age of 25 completes suicide.
  • In the past 60 years, the suicide rate has quadrupled for males 15 to 24 years old, and has doubled for females of the same age.
  • For every completed suicide by youth, it is estimated that 100 to 200 attempts are made.
  • Firearms remain the most commonly used suicide method among youth, accounting for 49% of all completed suicides
 
Prove that "easy access to guns" results in more mass shootings. Telling us other countries don't have a problem isn't proof of anything.

Common sense, if anyone who wants a gun can pretty much get a gun it makes mass shootings a whole lot easier for anyone. Sure it does, those with stricter access have less shootings, even the majority of U.S. with stricter gun laws have less gun violence than those with open gun laws, again, common sense
 
We’ve been thru this umpteen times, if they feared a central government that much why did they even create one, and, delegate it power?
they knew they needed one.....that whole 'necessary evil' thing. you'd know that if you bothered to study any history.

And secondly, another facf you just can’t accept, until you can define the prefatory clause the whole “infringe ……..” thing is nebulous at best, and no one to date has been able to define the prefatory clause
the meaning of that clause has been posted here over a dozen times. I've noticed that whenever I do post the actual quotes from the framers about what that means, you avoid it like covid. the meaning of infringe has been defined by them as well, and you refuse to acknowledge them.
 
Every year about 5000 teens commit suicide. About 50,000 Americans commit suicide. While I can understand why Democrats don't give a shit about the greater number since most are elderly white males, why they don't give a shit about the teens is a mystery.

https://www.sccenter.org/programs-and-services/for-teens/teen-suicide-facts/
Teen Suicide Facts
In the United States Suicide is the third leading cause of death of young people between the ages of 15 and 24.

  • 5,000 young people complete suicide in the U.S. each year.
  • Each year, there are approximately 10 youth suicides for every 100,000 youth.
  • Each day, there are approximately 12 youth suicides.
  • Every 2 hours and 11 minutes, a person under the age of 25 completes suicide.
  • In the past 60 years, the suicide rate has quadrupled for males 15 to 24 years old, and has doubled for females of the same age.
  • For every completed suicide by youth, it is estimated that 100 to 200 attempts are made.
  • Firearms remain the most commonly used suicide method among youth, accounting for 49% of all completed suicides

Encompassed issue, “ Firearms remain the most commonly used suicide method among youth, “ so if you limit access thru regulation availability to commit suicide lessons
 
there is not one scrap of historical evidence that indicates anything OTHER than the founders feared a new central government and sought to remove any power or authority of that new central government to infringe on the right of the people to keep and bear their own arms, semi-auto and auto included.
EXACTLY!
 
they knew they needed one.....that whole 'necessary evil' thing. you'd know that if you bothered to study any history.


the meaning of that clause has been posted here over a dozen times. I've noticed that whenever I do post the actual quotes from the framers about what that means, you avoid it like covid. the meaning of infringe has been defined by them as well, and you refuse to acknowledge them.

Think about that, so they went ahead and established that which they feared the most cause they needed it? And, gave it power cause they needed to? Why did they then abandon the Confederation? Why did they establish a National Bank?

You have posted what you think it means, and cherry picking phrases from the Founding Fathers is easy, you can even find quotes that contradict something they wrote elsewhere
 

So then you answer the question, if they feared a central government that much why did they even create one let alone delegate it so much power? Why didn’t they just stick with the Confederation?

And secondly, another facf you and the “smart” just can’t accept, until you can define the prefatory clause the whole “infringe ……..” thing is nebulous at best, and no one to date has been able to define the prefatory clause
 
So the shooter came from a single parent home with an absentee father and had anger issues and was bullied. Pretty much what I said. This is a parenting issue. Lack of proper guidance causes lack of morals and self control.
 
there is not one scrap of historical evidence that indicates anything OTHER than the founders feared a new central government and sought to remove any power or authority of that new central government to infringe on the right of the people to keep and bear their own arms, semi-auto and auto included.
The founders were clear:
When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
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We the people want to dissolve the political bands with our oligarch rulers. It's as simple as that. Our tax dollars shouldn't go to defend politicians from the people. 6.Jan was a result of a lack of good paying jobs.
 
So the shooter came from a single parent home with an absentee father and had anger issues and was bullied. Pretty much what I said. This is a parenting issue. Lack of proper guidance causes lack of morals and self control.

Oh, so if he came from a two parent family, was as passive as a lamb, and never was bullied, although I find it difficult how a player on a major collegiate football team was bullied, none of this would have happened?

Considering America’s divorce rate is close to 50%, must be a lot of people out there coming from single parent families we better start worrying about
 
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